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Post by Mike Roque » Wed May 11, 2005 2:25 pm

A driver died Tuesday night after his pickup truck was struck by a METRORail train, Local 2 reported. METRO officials said this is the first fatal accident involving the light-rail system since the train began running in November 2003.

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http://www.click2houston.com/news/4475197/detail.html
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Houston: mass transit wasteland

Post by Rockingham Racer » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:57 pm

We all probably know that Houston is the fourth largest city in the US. No commuter rail. One light rail line, recently completed, which motorists keep driving into on the city streets.

I live in Texas, and frankly, I'm amazed at a state that—while it talks a good line about rail transit—doesn't do much to move the situation forward. One wonders if there's an automakers' lobby quashing any rail-oriented initiatives.

So, we're building TOLL ROADS. Now there's the answer!

(Glad I got that off my chest!)
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Post by aline1969 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:02 pm

I read last week the have approved a corridor for another light rail route and also selected the south east corridor for a high-end bus-way...like pittsburgh/Ottawa...these work well.
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Post by Rockingham Racer » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:59 pm

This is true. However, there's a bit of a quibble about which route it will follow. NIMBYism is at play.

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Post by Tadman » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:06 am

I can't believe the automaker lobby cares about stopping trolleys now. In the 1950's, when a family had one car that it bought every five years, they stood to gain by destroying mass transit. Now that familys have upwards of two cars, and they change as often as every two years, the automakers have other fish to fry, namely their healthcare and unions. I don't think any transit agency would be worried about GM, Ford, or DCX anymore.

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Post by CHIP72 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:41 pm

Much of Houston's growth was fueled (pardon the pun) by the oil industry (and much of Houston's growth is a post-WWII phenomenon). Oil companies and car manufacturers are pretty much in each others'...um, pockets. I think that in large part explains the situation in Houston. Not coincidentally, I don't think I'd ever want to live in Houston.
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Post by gt7348b » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:19 am

Actually, Houston's political leadership, elected by its people, decided to invest in HOV lanes in the late '80s or early '90s when they elected Mayro Lanier. With their lack of zoning, which makes it an interesting constrast to the rest of the sunbelt cities, plus their interesing fact that most of Houston is actually in Harris County (most other Sunbelt cities like Dallas or Atlanta have multiple county, let alone municipal, gov'ts to deal with), I'm surprised Houston finally has any type of rail transit at all.
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Post by atlantis » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:29 pm

I agree with rockingham racer about auto lobbyists meddling.
here on Cape Cod, the Cape Cod commission, which claims to be for the preservation of the Cape, has repeatedly fought against restoration of the popular rail service we had in the eighties. While pushing more buses and road widenings. While our tax-funded passenger rail infrastructure(30 million 1980's dollars) continues to go to waste.
Look for the tell-tale signs such as opposing rail for "environmental" reasons, while these same opponents push for an all-bus transportation system, as well as more roads :(
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Re: Houston: mass transit waste land

Post by Carmine » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:18 pm

Rockingham Racer wrote: One wonders if there's an automakers' lobby quashing any rail-oriented initiatives.
I think you hit the nail on the coffin.

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Post by modorney » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:42 am

Houston has that great system of underground pedestrian tunnels, downtown. A Transit connection to that system is a natural.

Houston has a few "edge cities", like the Galleria area. Makes for a little more complicated transit plan, but not insurmountable.


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Houston Light Rail

Post by aline1969 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:35 pm

Does anyone know if and when another route will be installed? When I was there Sept 2005 they mentioned the city wanted another line.

Now.. enjoy this clip of the dumb people of Houston as they get rammed by the lightrail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2rdGX4 ... re=related
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Re: Houston Light Rail

Post by Rockingham Racer » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:40 pm

Just yesterday, the Houston City Council gave the go-ahead for FIVE more lines, all of which are supposed to be finished by 2012, which I'll believe when I see it.

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Re: Houston Light Rail

Post by aline1969 » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:24 am

Really, that is great news for Houston...built by 2012... yes I will believe that when I see it also :-D but man I wish my home city of Boston can just make those kind of decisions to build more lines...lol

I wonder where I can get a copy of the new route proposals.
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Destroyed in Seconds-Houston LR vs Autos

Post by raytylicki » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:41 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctarvAZpGE

Is most of the Dallas Light Rail on its own ROW? This is a good case for having a Auto Free Mall downtown for were the light rail is and a lesson for any city that wants to elminate its transit mall for mixed traffic.

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Re: Destroyed in Seconds-Houston LR vs Autos

Post by Disney Guy » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:22 pm

The majority of the Houston route is in the median of a boulevard.

Most of the collisions have occurred on that boulevard.

Most of the collisions were caused by motorists trying to turn left across the tracks and beat the train but making the mistake of slowing down at the last minute so the train caught up with them.
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