They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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Lentinula
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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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jonnhrr wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:51 am
A second for the New London - Norwich - Worcester service that was run by PC up to the Amtrak takeover. As I recall by the end PC had moved the Worcester stop out of Union Station to an inconveniently located freight house which would have made connecting with service to Boston difficult.

Also the Philadelphia to Newark NJ RDC remnant of the famed RDG "Crusader" which I believe lasted until Conrail exited the passenger business in the early 1980's. As I recall they had one RDC configured as a snack bar in the morning and a bar car in the evening. By that time is was essentially a commuter train but would have been an interesting alternative to the NEC.

I was fortunately able to ride the RDC's from Philadelphia to Bethlehem and Reading/Pottsville just before they were discontinued.

Jon
Didn't they move it to the now absent stop right across from George's Coney Island Hot Dogs? Honestly I'd take that trade off.

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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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In my case, a couple trains that were discontinued before I rode were the Pioneer and Desert Wind, although I was only 2 1/2 years old when they were cut. lol

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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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Bring back the Slumbercoaches!!

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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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CarterB wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:31 pm
Last run of the RDC "Crusader" and "Wall Street"
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2315857
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2315865
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Also the Rdg Terminal - Bethlehem and Rdg Terminal - Reading - Pottsville services.

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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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One mustn't forget the New York, Susquehanna & Western's Butler Day Express which ran four days a year one-way from Susquehanna Transfer to Butler, N.J. It had quite a railfan following, which may have well made up the bulk of its passengers. One RS-1 and two ex-NYC Pressed Steel coaches.
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Amtrak Cape Codder
Amtrak North Star to Duluth
Via Canadian over CP
Via Atlantic
CN Newfoundland/Terra Transport
Algoma Central's full line train to Franz(?)
Ontario Northland Northlander (and/or the sleeper counterpart that was cut 20+ years ago)
Trenes Argentinos Mendoza line
Trenes Argentinos Bariloche line before it was cut in two (no service b/w Bahia Blanca and Viedma)
Michigan Northern's Traverse City Train (although a bit useless since it didn't go to Chicago or Detroit)
MILW Copper Country Limited
Northwestern Pacific
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Tadman wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:25 am
MILW Copper Country Limited
Ditto (reference my screen name)

Would also have enjoyed riding the Soo train across northern Wisconsin? that sold tickets for its caboose. I think it came off in the late 1980s.

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CarterB wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:31 pm
Last run of the RDC "Crusader" and "Wall Street"
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2315857
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2315865
Man, that brings back memories, the first train model I did was a Crusader, and that's one of the things that got me interested in American trains! Will there be one kept at a museum or something like that?

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Mr. Morris, while the photos you located at RRPictures show the Crusader at "The End", let us not forget what a classy little Streamliner it was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_ ... usader.JPG

The equipment pictured was sold to the Canadian National as part of their 60's passenger service initiative.

Crusader reminds me of another "bold" initiative in "our part of the world" - the Wabash RR. How and why they ended up purchasing a matched six car consist, including four (corrected) Domes from which to view the prairie, from Budd to use on their circuitous secondary CHI-STL route escapes me. The only intermediate stop of note was Decatur, and their route out of STL involved running West then doing a 180 to head East to X Ol' Man River on the Merchants Bridge with first IL stop at Granite City.
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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

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Gilbert B Norman wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:49 am
Mr. Morris, while the photos you located at RRPictures show the Crusader at "The End", let us not forget what a classy little Streamliner it was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_ ... usader.JPG

The equipment pictured was sold to the Canadian National as part of their 60's passenger service initiative.

Crusader reminds me of another "bold" initiative in "our part of the world" - the Wabash RR. How and why they ended up purchasing a matched six car consist, including three Domes from which to view the prairie, from Budd to use on their circuitous secondary CHI-STL route escapes me. The only intermediate stop of note was Decatur, and their route out of STL involved running West then doing a 180 to head East to X Ol' Man River on the Merchants Bridge with first IL stop at Granite City.
Indeed, Mr. Norman, the streamlined five car Crusader and Wall Street were classics, with obs car at each end so they didn't have to turn the consists.
One Obs car survives at the Strasburg RR museum in PA.
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Bring back the Slumbercoaches!!

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Re: They Got Away!!! Trains discontinued before we rode

Post by Gilbert B Norman »

Note I was mistaken; the Blue Bird consist as delivered from Budd had four domes - and if that weren't enough, they added a P-S Dome Parlor, which resulted in five Domes for a seven car train - and with nothing much in the way of scenery (no "more smiles to the miles").

The Bluebird even had a movie (albeit, propaganda):

https://youtu.be/pIl9-aNAV-k

The Wabash also ordered one additional "streamliner", the "City of Kansas City", from ACF. No Domes.

But by the later '50's (or before I first got to Chicago on my own during 1961 - hence appropriate for this They Got Away topic) , Wabash saw the futility of these two matched trains, and they "spread" the equipment over the secondary trains, such as the "Banner Blue". Along with some PS lightweight equipment from the Boston and Maine, they largely relegated their heavyweight equipment to peak travel periods.

Incidentally, the PS Dome was sold to the Central of Georgia, and after their service got whacked on A-Day, the car was assigned to the Southern Crescent and continued there until SRY signed up with Amtrak during 1983.

The Late Mr. Ainsworth's site, "Dome Main", remains hosted by Trainweb.com and should be a source as to where these cars ended up.

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