ALL THINGS BIG BOY

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Re: UP Class 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Maximum Cut-Off

Post by joeburgard540 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:59 pm

Thanks Will, nice to know my figures correspond. Just curious as to what source you got that from? Also what is RME?

I drew some Zeuner diagrams for full gear (hand drawn and CAD) based off the info on UP drawing 585 CA 30809, the valve diagram:
Valve Diameter - 12"
Valve Travel - 7"
Steam Lap - 1.375"
Lead - 0.25"
Exhaust Clearance - 0.125"

Results:
Lead Angle - 27.7 degrees
Cutoff - 81.6%
Release - 93.4%
Compression - 4.86%
Admission - 0.15%

As a side note, UP drawing 683 CA 31236 dated 5 August 1944 gives the Power Reverse Gear as the 12" ALCO Type "M". This is for locos 4-8-8-4 #4000-4024 and 4-6-6-4 #3930-3999.

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Re: UP Class 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Maximum Cut-Off

Post by Typewriters » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:03 pm

That's all from my brother's library, specifically the Gregg reprints of specific articles from RME or Railway Mechanical Engineer, which for those unfamiliar was the real biblical trade paper as far as new steam locomotive construction was concerned. I don't know why your drawings list "Type M" and RME states "Special Type H" unless they're one and the same with two different (ie earlier and later) designations.

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Re: UP Big Boy Steam Turret: Vents?

Post by joeburgard540 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:49 pm

My bad...I misread your question and to clarify. The two steam plumes on the turret (just ahead of the cab) are the exhuast for the cold water pump and the Nalco Automatic Blowdown. The third plume of steam nearly always seen is from the Pyle National turbo-generator (ahead and on the left or fireman's side of the turret).

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Big Boy

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ALL THINGS BIG BOY

Post by John_Perkowski » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:42 pm

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This thread applies to anything related to a Union Pacific F-E-E-F or 4-8-8-4 articulated locomotive.
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Re: ALL THINGS BIG BOY

Post by dan the ca railfan » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:06 pm

they are restoring a big boy locomotive for the 150th anniversary of the transcontinental railroad. yep for the first time since the 1950s i believe a big boy locomotive will be steaming again.

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Re: ALL THINGS BIG BOY

Post by John_Perkowski » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:28 pm

As an update, they’ve done the hydrostatic test and the early live steam tests, and they are filling 3985s tender.
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Re: ALL THINGS BIG BOY

Post by John_Perkowski » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:26 pm

As an update...

Yesterday, the Steam Shop in Cheyenne lit off 4014s oil burners.

A Big Boy is under steam again.
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Re: ALL THINGS BIG BOY

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