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David Hutchinson
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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by David Hutchinson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:49 pm

there is a you tube video of the 2173 lettered for M&NJ heading out of Mt. Vernon, Illinois

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by Dick H » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:42 am

Video by trainboylogan productions. with 2175 behind three gondolas.
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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by David Hutchinson » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:48 am

I'M WRONG..... blame it on my age.... it's the 2175, not 2173................

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by David Hutchinson » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:21 pm

delivered to Campbell Hall today..... just saw pictures......

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by rob216 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:54 pm

Out working already. Passingthe staion at Campbell Hall.
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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by bk77 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:14 am

Someone posted a pic of the 2174 on MNJ Hist. Society's facebook page out in Ohio getting shipped a couple days ago. Expect to see it in CH in the near future.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:43 am

Are other units being removed from CH?
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by bk77 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:51 am

A gentleman on that FB page, who sounds like an MNJ employee and does mechanical work on the loco's, mentioned 1800 will be staying put, as well as the 773 which is "receiving upgrades" (didn't mention details about the upgrades). Also mentioned the new geeps are part of ESPN's plans to phase out the remaining GE's... which I pretty much figured.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by DogBert » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:40 pm

Looks like MNJ is picking up some more trackage, leased from NS.
https://www.stb.gov/filings/all.nsf/ba7 ... 246831.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

*edit: ALSO, looks like they're getting trackage rights all the way to Port Jervis. What does this mean for the NS Interchange? Will they interchange with NYSW at port jervis? 30 miles of rights is a pretty big expansion for MNJ.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by Trainman14 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:00 am

This is great news. Would the MNJ need to acquire additional motive power?

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by Trainman14 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 am

Oops, I forgot to congratulate them.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:02 am

There was nothing listed about additional interchange points. I would think the additional trackage rights would help them if there are any additional businesses that come online in the future. I doubt they'll really be going west of Middletown anytime soon.
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by bk77 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:35 pm

One big plus with all this is I imagine MNJ will now be able to bring CSX/NYSW traffic to Middletown portion customers when they were not able to before, creating opporitunity for more business on that end. On top of that, they will be gaining the current NS customers between Middletown and Campbell Hall. I don't see the MNJ going to Port Jervis under normal circumstances.... I believe PJ is just the farthest point west of the territory they are agreeing to take over from NS. In a nutshell, this sounds like all good stuff for the M&NJ.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by rhallock » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:56 pm

The practical aspect of this is that M&NJ will probably operate all its service out of Campbell Hall instead of having one engine stationed in Middletown as is done now. NS will probably never go west of CH now. I believe that M&NJ now has its engines equipped with PTC.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by pumpers » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:42 am

bk77 wrote:One big plus with all this is I imagine MNJ will now be able to bring CSX/NYSW traffic to Middletown portion customers when they were not able to before, creating opporitunity for more business on that end. ...
In the earlier linked document, which I don't have in front of me, I recall reading a sentence like "traffic not being interchanged with NS will be subject to a surcharge (presumably to be paid to NS)", IIRC. I don't remember if that applied to all MNJ traffic to/from territory that was formerly handled by NS, or just some piece of it.

So my point is there might not be CSX/NYSW interchange for Middletown, depending on the surcharge.
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