NYS Turntables

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:58 pm

Erie
Avon - TT+RH - 42.916324, -77.746932 (1st)
Avon - TT+RH - 42.919118, -77.746905 (2nd)
Binghamton - TT only - 42.104549, -75.899653
Buffalo (Alabama St) - TT only - 42.876055, -78.859463
Buffalo (East) - TT+RH - 42.878587, -78.820385
Buffalo (Niagara St) - TT only - 42.944041, -78.907429
Carrollton TT only - TT & 2 stall EH (NYLE&W)
Castile - TT only - 42.627593, -78.060737
Corning - TT+RH - 42.144460, -77.062890
Deposit - TT+RH - 42.058452, -75.430981
Elmira - TT+RH - 42.093303, -76.806908
Goshen - TT only - 43.312890, -73.635667 (1st)
Goshen - TT only - 41.400858, -74.331595 (2nd)
Hornell - TT+RH - 42.315778, -77.652578
Jamestown (B&SW) - TT+RH - 42.093892, -79.250195
Montgomery - TT only - 41.524992, -74.234529
Mt. Morris - TT only - 42.718579,-77.868583
Newburgh - TT only - 41.499243, -74.005998 (1st)
Newburgh - TT+RH - 41.492959, -74.030636 (2nd)
Niagara Falls - TT+RH - 43.108947,-79.050005
Nyack - TT+RH - 41.089244, -73.921567
Pine Bush - TT only - 41.609100, -74.297108
Port Jervis - TT only - 41.375359, -74.694884
Port Jervis - TT+RH - 41.376451, -74.694584
Rochester - TT+RH - 43.145789,-77.613484
Salamanca (A&GW) - TT+RH - 42.160361, -78.716903
Salamanca (A&GW) - TT+RH - 42.160384, -78.716793
Salamanca - TT+RH - 42.161167, -78.716428
Spring Valley - TT+RH - 41.117589, -74.048865
Suffern - TT+EH - 41.116961, -74.155171 (1st)
Suffern - TT+RH - 41.119964, -74.159575 (2nd)
Wayland - TT only - 42.570214, -77.592736

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by lvrr325 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:14 am

nydepot wrote:Lehigh Valley

Canastota - TT+RH - 43.074606, -75.754486
The circa-1930s LV partial map for Canastota I have shows just a turntable. 1955 Aerial indicates the same; it's a sharp enough photo that I would think a foundation would show up. I don't know that there would be room for any engine storage there, between the road, the creek and other structures. There is a section house or tool shed of some sort in the aerial photo but it's too small for a locomotive and not positioned to allow entry anyhow.

You can still find the foundation ring in current Google images.


To me it makes sense to indicate which ones are still active so I don't have to spend hours looking at each possible one to find one still in use.

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:00 am

Bill,

Go back up to Scot's post and he links to the original list he gleamed from this forum. At the bottom is what you're looking for. That way you don't need to waste your hours. I just created this thread to share a list I expanded upon (of which I participated in the earlier list on this forum). This isn't North Korea. I'm not forcing you to go through each coordinate. And I'm not giving a test later.

As for Canastota, see below. I look at maps and read books dealing with dates back to the 1850s. You're looking at 100+ years of land change. Easy to erase where a building sat, harder but not impossible to erase where the TT was. Most TTs lasted much longer than the engine house itself, when they were paired.
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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by CPSmith » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:34 pm

Three TT in Cortland, but what is this, if anything? 42.594303, -76.168461
peddle your shorts

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:21 pm

I never found three (assume you mean LV?). I found one reused with new buildings built. So it was effectively 3 roundhouses with 2 turntables.

And that's not anything. The DL&W TT was in the SW quadrant of the crossing. See the DL&W list.

So that's 2 LV and 1 DL&W. Any others. I have another DL&W there I'm working on but haven't gotten to it yet. It' sup north.
CPSmith wrote:Three TT in Cortland, but what is this, if anything? 42.594303, -76.168461

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by CPSmith » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:06 pm

OK, let me try again - I didn't do a great job the first time ... I found the two LV and one DL&W as you have so noted - no issue with those and I've actually been to all three sites. The DL&W is (was) in the SW quadrant of the junction. My question is: what (if anything) is in the NW quadrant? Let's call it a crop circle. The crop circle appears in the last 50+ years of aerials. Do you know? I don't. I'm not a local to Cortland and not familiar with Cortland history. If it's nothing, then it's nothing.

In any event, keep up the good work. This is a fascinating topic!

42.594291, -76.168466
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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:49 pm

That circle is just from turning trucks. I've never found a single thing on any map or ETT that lists a TT up in that quadrant. The interchange tracks were in that quad. If you go back to the 1894 birds eye view, there is still nothing there.

Because I never found anything, I just assumed it was from turning the trucks around in front of the dairy. The dairy was there for a long time.

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:55 pm

OK, because we're talking about Cortland (Thanks CPSmith), I pulled out the info I was sent and researched it. I've added another TT in Cortland on the DL&W.

Bill - the turntable is gone!

Delaware, Lackawanna & Western
Binghamton - TT+RH - 42.102973, -75.905114 (1st)
Binghamton - TT+RH - 42.105520, -75.895817 (2nd)
Binghamton (East) - TT+RH - 42.096565 -75.853332 (3rd)
Buffalo (East) - TT+RH - 42.891255, -78.789046
Buffalo (Alabama St) - TT only - 42.869355, -78.860090
Buffalo (Black Rock) - TT only - 42.934507, -78.898022
Cincinnatus - TT only - 42.540320, -75.900945
Cortland - TT only - 42.599061, -76.172613
Cortland - TT+RH - 42.593392, -76.167676
Elmira - TT+RH - 42.105767, -76.810107 (1st)
Elmira - TT+RH - 42.109926, -76.814190 (2nd)
Ithaca - TT+RH - 42.444791, -76.510796
Norwich - TT only - 42.522356, -75.517600
Oswego - TT only - 43.449747, -76.517655 (1st)
Oswego - TT+RH - 43.449467, -76.518036 (2nd)
Richfield Springs - TT+EH - 42.849431,-74.989253
Syracuse - TT+RH - 43.046621, -76.170347 (1st)
Syracuse - TT+RH - 43.045154, -76.173853 (2nd)
Utica - TT+RH - 43.106645, -75.231464 (1st)
Utica - TT+RH - 43.107702, -75.242506 (2nd)
Utica - TT+RH - 43.107506, -75.236622 (3rd)

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Fri May 10, 2019 7:50 am

I added Cuba. This was an early TT used to turn pushers (pre-1890s)

Erie
Avon - TT+RH - 42.916324, -77.746932 (1st)
Avon - TT+RH - 42.919118, -77.746905 (2nd)
Binghamton - TT only - 42.104549, -75.899653
Buffalo (Alabama St) - TT only - 42.876055, -78.859463
Buffalo (East) - TT+RH - 42.878587, -78.820385
Buffalo (Niagara St) - TT only - 42.944041, -78.907429
Carrollton TT only - TT & 2 stall EH (NYLE&W)
Castile - TT only - 42.627593, -78.060737
Corning - TT+RH - 42.144460, -77.062890
Cuba - TT only - 42.215422, -78.282806
Deposit - TT+RH - 42.058452, -75.430981
Elmira - TT+RH - 42.093303, -76.806908
Goshen - TT only - 43.312890, -73.635667 (1st)
Goshen - TT only - 41.400858, -74.331595 (2nd)
Hornell - TT+RH - 42.315778, -77.652578
Jamestown (B&SW) - TT+RH - 42.093892, -79.250195
Montgomery - TT only - 41.524992, -74.234529
Mt. Morris - TT only - 42.718579,-77.868583
Newburgh - TT only - 41.499243, -74.005998 (1st)
Newburgh - TT+RH - 41.492959, -74.030636 (2nd)
Niagara Falls - TT+RH - 43.108947,-79.050005
Nyack - TT+RH - 41.089244, -73.921567
Pine Bush - TT only - 41.609100, -74.297108
Port Jervis - TT only - 41.375359, -74.694884
Port Jervis - TT+RH - 41.376451, -74.694584
Rochester - TT+RH - 43.145789,-77.613484
Salamanca (A&GW) - TT+RH - 42.160361, -78.716903
Salamanca (A&GW) - TT+RH - 42.160384, -78.716793
Salamanca - TT+RH - 42.161167, -78.716428
Spring Valley - TT+RH - 41.117589, -74.048865
Suffern - TT+EH - 41.116961, -74.155171 (1st)
Suffern - TT+RH - 41.119964, -74.159575 (2nd)
Wayland - TT only - 42.570214, -77.592736

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Fri May 10, 2019 7:51 am

Tonawanda Valley & Cuba
Cuba - TT only - 42.214431, -78.289674

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Re: NYS Turntables

Post by nydepot » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:53 am

Finally finished another road. I was just finished the remaining areas - the Bronx and Manhattan:

New Haven
Beacon - TT+EH - 41.504533, -73.986706
Bronx (Port Morris) - TT+RH - 40.803270, -73.921728 (1st)
Bronx (Port Morris) - TT+RH - 40.802904, -73.921573 (2nd)
Bronx (Port Morris) - TT only - 40.802596, -73.920919
Bronx (Unionport Rd) - TT only - 40.842030, -73.864121
Manhattan (Grand Central) - TT+RH - 40.754842, -73.975159
Maybrook - TT+RH - 41.484332, -74.213716
New Rochelle - TT+RH - 40.915542, -73.780316
Pine Plains - TT+EH - 41.973780, -73.658485
Port Chester - TT+EH - 41.001847, -73.664731
Poughkeepsie - TT only - 41.712299, -73.924673

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