Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

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CMRR Work Report - Sept 18 to 25

Post by eehiv » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:25 pm

Wednesday September 18th

Sam Cogan and Dave Heick cut brush.


Thursday September 19th

The CMRR ran a charter on September 19th. Earl Pardini was engineer, Bill Kaba was brakeman, Dylan Iurato and Sam Cogan flagged. Sam Cogan and Dylan Iurato did maintenance work.


Saturday September 21st

Earl Pardini, John Marino, Sam Cogan and Rphael DeMeglio did trackwork near MP 8.


Monday September 23rd

Sam Cogan worked along the ROW.


Tuesday September 24th

Sam Cogan and Dave Heick did trackwork near MP 8.2.





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CMRR Work Report - Sept 25 to 29

Post by eehiv » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:07 am

Wednesday September 25th

Bryan Van Kirk, Earl Pardini and Dave Heick did maintenance work on the 401.


Thursday September 26th

Bryan Van Kirk, Art Vogel and Dave Heick did maintenance work on the 401 and the passenger train.


Saturday September 28th

The CMRR ran its first leaf train for the season. Earl Pardini was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, John Marino was brakeman, Sam Cogan and Dylan Iurato were flagges, and Marcia Roosa and Peter Fluchere were ticket agents.

Saturday September 29th

For the leaf train, John Marino was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Martin Elbrecht was brakeman, Sam Cogan and Dylan Iurato were flagges, and Marcia Roosa and Pat Smalley were ticket agents.




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CMRR Work Report - Oct 2 to 8

Post by eehiv » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:55 am

Wednesday October 2nd

We had a charter. Earl Pardini was engineer, Marjorie Van Kirk was conductor, Sam Cogan was brakeman, and Dylan Iurato was flagger.


Thursday October 3rd

Sam Cogan did trackwork.


Friday October 4th

Earl Pardini, Bryan Van Kirk, Dave Heick, Marjorie Van Kirk and Sam Cogan moved equipment and cut trees.


Saturday October 5th

Bryan Van Kirk was engineer, Marjorie Van Kirk was Conductor, Bill Kaba was brakeman, Sam Cogan and Ken Harris were flaggers, and Marcia Roosa and Pat Smalley were ticket agents.

Vince Guido and Martin Elbrecht worked on the section house.


Sunday October 6th

For the leaf train, Bryan Van Kirk was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Sam Cogan was brakeman, Russ Hallock and Dylan Iurato were flaggers. Dave Heick was engineer in training, and Marcia Roosa and Pat Smalley were ticket agents.

Vince Guido worked on the section house.


Tuesday October 8th

Earl Pardini and Bryan Van Kirk worked on equipment.





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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by liallegheny » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:02 pm

So what's next? Obviously there are more ties to replace , track work to be done, tree trimming, etc, but until you get approval to cross 28A, assuming you do , what is the next plan of attack? What happened to building the small yard, or did Ulster renege on that?

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by eehiv » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:02 am

The CMRR's new business plan has been published. See below:

https://catskillmountainrailroad.com/business-plan/

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by New Haven 1 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:26 am

That's a great plan Ernie and, the fact that your numbers are based on real data, I hope the city embraces what the CMRR is trying to accomplish.

I also note the Spur to Kingston Lumber included in the future proposals along with what be a needed re-connection to the national rail network.

Am I correct in guessing that KIngston Lumber is still interested if the cards fall into place?
RAILROADS: AMERICA'S MOST IMPORTANT TOOL FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION. REMIND YOUR POLITICIANS HOW YOU WANT YOUR TAX DOLLARS SPENT.

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by airman00 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:59 pm

I love it! Hope springs anew! I hope the city/county agrees with this plan! Very shortsighted to do what ulster county did. Hopefully this includes restoration of Cornell Street yard too.

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CMRR Work Report - Oct 9 to 15

Post by eehiv » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:25 pm

Wednesday October 9th

Earl Pardini, Sam Cogan, Dave Heick and Bryan Van Kirk moved flat 273 from PA to Kingston and did maintenance work on the flat.

Frank Dravecky worked on the Section House.


Thursday October 10th

Vince Guido and Frank Dravecky worked on the section house.


Friday October 11th

For Rails of Terror, Bryan Van Kirk was engineer, Tony Bocchino was conductor, Arthur Vogel was brakeman, Russ Hallock, Joe Wolff and Sam Cogan were flaggers. Marcia Roosa and Peter Fluchere were ticket agents.

Vice Guido and Frank Dravecky worked on the Section House and the Pumpkin Patch.


Saturday October 12th

Dave Hilliard was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Bill Kaba and John Marino were brakeman, Sam Cogan, Dylan Iurato and Russ Hallock were flaggers, and Pat Smalley was ticket agent.

Vince Guido, Martin Elbrecht, Dave Heick and Frank Dravecky worked on the section house.


Sunday October 13th

John Marino was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Art Vogel was brakeman, Ken Harris and Sam Cogan were flaggers. Marcia Roosa and Karin Vogel were ticket agents.


Monday October 14th

John Marino was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Sam Cogan was brakeman, Ken Harris and Dylan Iurato were flaggers. Marcia Roosa was ticket agent.

Frank Draveck and Dave Heick worked on the section house.

Earl Pardini made equipment repairs.


Tuesday October 15th

Earl Pardini, John Marino, Sam Cogan and Dylan Iurato were crew for a charter in Kingston.





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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by eehiv » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:37 pm

There was a recent article in the local paper about our new business plan:

https://www.dailyfreeman.com/news/local ... 8df1b.html

Kathy Nolan, the legislator quoted as against the plan, is a long-term adversary of the CMRR.

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by lvrr325 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:12 am

Just have to play it on her level and ask why she hates tax revenue and successful business.

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by airman00 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:36 pm

Not to get political, but Ms. Nolan is very smart, and based on a small bit of research, she appears to be well connected both politically and in the environmental community. She also appears to have some serious clout in the trail community as well. Plus she’s a doctor and apparently also studied law. So the problem for the CMRR is that she’s a formidable opponent. You’re essentially dealing with someone who is powerful, and in a position of authority. So I don’t know what you can do, except try to somehow win her over?

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CMRR Work Report - Oct 16 to 23

Post by eehiv » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:40 pm

Wednesday October 16th

Sam Cogan did track work. Vince Guido, Dave Heick and Dylan Iurato worked on the North Pole.

Thursday October 17th

Dave Heick and Vince Guido worked on the Section House.


Friday October 18th

Dave Heick and Vince Guido worked on the Section House.

For Rails of Terror, Bryan Van Kirk was engineer, Tony Bocchino was conductor, Arthur Vogel was brakeman, Dylan Iurato and Sam Cogan were flaggers. Marcia Roosa and Peter Fluchere were ticket agents.


Saturday October 19th

Earl Pardini and Bryan Van Kirk were engineers, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Art Vogel and Neil Isabelle were brakeman, Sam Cogan and Dylan Iurato were flaggers, and Peter Fluchere, Marcia Roosa and Karen Vogel were ticket agents.

Vince Guido, Martin Elbrecht and Dave Heick worked on the section house and the North Pole.


Sunday October 20th

Bryan Van Kirk was engineer, Tony Bocchino was Conductor, Marjorie Van Kirk was brakeman, Martin Elbrecht and Sam Cogan were flaggers. Marcia Roosa was ticket agent.


Monday October 21st

Bryan Van Kirk and Sam Cogan moved equipment and worked on the 401.


Tuesday October 22nd

Sam Cogan did trackwork and Dave Heick did work in Phoenicia.




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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by lvrr325 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:16 pm

Openly against generating revenue for the county doesn't sound smart to me. Experienced in politics, perhaps, but not smart.

Usually you get these types by digging the skeletons out of their closets, catching them in hypocrisy, or otherwise characterizing them as bad.

CMR does a good job on the fact side, there's no reason to get down and dirty, but the obvious question would remain, why would someone want to throw away all of that revenue for a trail nobody but a few locals will use?

They can claim some additional gains from people using the portions converted to trail, but that's because nothing was there before. A simple people counter would tell the tale of how many use it versus how many could use a train.

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by airman00 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:49 pm

lvrr325 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:16 pm
CMR does a good job on the fact side, there's no reason to get down and dirty, but the obvious question would remain, why would someone want to throw away all of that revenue for a trail nobody but a few locals will use?
THAT is the $64,000 question of the day. It does make one wonder what’s really going on...

That being said, I do applaud the CMRR for taking the high road and refusing to play dirty, because you and I both know if the railroad went that way and did play dirty, then they would be the ones to look bad.

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Re: Catskill Mountain Railroad (CMRR) Discussion - 2019

Post by BandA » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:38 pm

I also assume the gag order is still in place that the railroad can't "disparage" the county. There seems to be a major shift after the previous county-executive-for-life left & his hand-picked interim executive was replaced with a fresh person. Hopefully things are more balanced and logical.

Is the Daily Freeman still slanted against the railroad? [Edit] The Daily Freeman does still seem slanted in their reporting.

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