NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

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Dcell
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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by Dcell » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:01 pm

Chris,
How’d you make out with the speeder? Did you ever hear back? The tracks have been lifted.

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by cjvrr » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:21 am

Reached out to a couple more people including the lawyer for the new property owner, but nope, not a peep.

I was in that area on Sept 21st. Everything still there at that time. Did the tracks just get lifted? Will need to take another ride.
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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by DogBert » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:27 pm

Yikes. Definitely doesn't sound good. I wonder if there are any local elected official who might be able to make a connection.

Found this recent photo - looks like a tagger got in there and did some recent scribbling.
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/711539/

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by DogBert » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:28 pm

Went by today, nothing's moved. Unless there's a break back in the yard, all the rail is still in, down Monroe street. There was a covered hopper on the interchange track. I'm assuming it's been there awhile?

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by airman00 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:43 pm

Well that’s good if all the rail is still in.

Erie Limited
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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by Erie Limited » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:13 pm

The Dundee Spur is back in the news:
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 332952002/

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by airman00 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:45 pm

In those pics, the tracks look in great shape! Even the ties look good! There’s gotta be some way to save the tracks somehow.

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by riffian » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:47 pm

Why would anyone want to save these tracks?

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by airman00 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:57 pm

riffian wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:47 pm
Why would anyone want to save these tracks?
Northern NJ used to be a hot bed of railroad tracks going every which way you could imagine. Double tracked lines, triple tracked line, even quadruple tracked lines. Countless numbers of sidings, run around tracks, yards everywhere, etc., etc. Most of that is all gone. Abandoned rows, and areas that once held tracks now just a few old ties left buried in the ground. Yards torn up and built over. What once was is no more. So you ask WHY anyone would want to save these tracks? Because too much railroad is going the way of the dodo bird, never to be seen again.

Northern NJ used to be a maze of railroad tracks, now it’s just a faded memory of what little is actually left. Very sad indeed...☹️

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by cjvrr » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:24 am

There needs to be a viable customer to have rail service. When Conrail attempted to abandon in the 1990's due to no customers, Jim Wilson stepped in and was able to get one customer, then a second with the trash transfer business. Unfortunately both have disappeared or moved elsewhere.

Passaic has been attempting to re gentrify and has no want for industrial business in this area of town.

I hate to say, the potential for any customers is gone and Passaic wants to go a different direction. Be glad Mr. Wilson kept it going for another 20 years after Conrail tried to abandon it.
airman00 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:57 pm
riffian wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:47 pm
Why would anyone want to save these tracks?
Northern NJ used to be a hot bed of railroad tracks going every which way you could imagine. Double tracked lines, triple tracked line, even quadruple tracked lines. Countless numbers of sidings, run around tracks, yards everywhere, etc., etc. Most of that is all gone. Abandoned rows, and areas that once held tracks now just a few old ties left buried in the ground. Yards torn up and built over. What once was is no more. So you ask WHY anyone would want to save these tracks? Because too much railroad is going the way of the dodo bird, never to be seen again.

Northern NJ used to be a maze of railroad tracks, now it’s just a faded memory of what little is actually left. Very sad indeed...☹️
CV the Civil E

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Re: NYGL Dundee Spur Status - 2009-present

Post by DogBert » Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:22 pm

According to this recent article NY&GL is ok with rail removal but the STB must approve.
https://www.rtands.com/railroad-news/ra ... ew-jersey/

It's a forgone conclusion the rails will be removed sooner or later. The only question is the fate of the NY&GL cars, along with the sole DM&E hopper.

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