On Thanksgiving Day, one of Amtrak’s Hiawathas to Milwaukee had a full-length “Super Dome” in the consist! The OCEAN VIEW is former Great Northern. Does anyone know why this car is on this train?



Ellis Simon November 26, 2012 at 7:22 am

I don’t know, but I will guess that it was there to provide extra seating for the holiday rush. One of those dome cars can seat over 60 passengers, so if it was on your train you got lucky.

Mark Meyer December 3, 2012 at 5:11 pm

This thread is titled, “SUPER DOME on Hiawatha Train!”

But it wasn’t.

Amtrak 10031, is an ex-Great Northern full length dome lounge built by Budd. The Super Dome was built by Pullman Standard.

In Jim Scribbins’ book “The Hiawatha Story,” a caption under an interior photo of one of the Super Domes states, “From a passenger viewpoint, the Super Domes were not the most successful of cars. The true advantage of a dome – forward visibility – was lost because the bulkheads were too high and the seats were too low. Also, the 12-wheel cars rode rough, at least by CMStP&P standards.”

The Great Northern full-length “Great Domes” had excellent forward visibility as did all such Budd products.

So, please don’t insult this car by calling it a “Super Dome.”

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