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Trip Report 6-24-04/7-5-04 (with video)

Postby ggardei » Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:25 am

Video (return trip) 16 minutes long

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Trip Report – 6-24-04

Amtrak 680 – The Downeaster from Haverhill Ma to Boston North Station

I drove myself to the Haverhill station with my mother and my luggage in tow. I tied my “essential clothing” bag and camera bags to my big travel bag (one of those big boxy things with wheels and a handle) so that it would be more easily brought aboard the train. My mom waited around to watch me board the train when it arrived a few minutes late. The conductor allowed me to place my bags in one of the unoccupied handicap areas.

I head for the café car and decide that I would sit at one of the tables on the way down to Boston, so I head back to get my luggage and move it to the handicap area of the café car. I ordered a cup of Green Mountain Coffee (which is arguably the best coffee in the northeast) and a cinnamon raison bagel which was toasted without me being asked. The coffee and bagel were both enjoyable and I rode the train in quiet solitude into Boston, well at least tried to because the southbound lane of the MBTA owned Lowell line didn’t have continuous welded rail, so it got pretty rough in some areas where the track was in bad need of attention.

At north station, I went out to find a taxi and immediately found one. I waited for it to offload its passengers and luggage and the driver promptly loaded my stuff (I kept the laptop bag on me) and had him take me to South Station.

At South Station I check in my Luggage and played Train Simulator for several hours. Around 6:30 I went to the Cheese Steak place and ordered some lunch. I ate half the sandwich and saved the rest for later. I then went out to wait for my next train, the Lake Shore Limited to be backed into the station. Around 11:15 it was finally in the station and I asked the baggage supervisor if I could take some pictures of the locos. Head escorted me through the maze of forklifts, mail, and express freight being loaded onto one of the ex-heritage coach baggage cars. We had two units in phase V scheme, a baggage car, viewliner, two coaches and 1 café. I asked, and I was escorted into the viewliner and I took a few pictures there. When I was done taking pictures, I went to the line forming of passengers and waited to board the train.

Lake Shore Limited – Boston South Station to Albany/Rensselaer NY.

I road in the last coach next to the café. The train was booked so the conductor announced that if no one had a seating parner, they would find someone to sit with you. A gentleman around my age asked to sit next to me. He was heading for Toledo. He turned out to a good conversationalist, about trains, computers, etc. The five hour trip to Albany was mostly smooth and uneventful. We arrived in Springfield Ma on time, and I got out and took a few more photos.

After Springfield, we started to run a little late. We arrived in Pittsfield about a half an hour late and eventually into Albany 20 minutes late. We did not have to wait for freights except at Pittsfield. We passed at least two eastbound freights and one westbound freight. Sometime during the trip I sampled to coffee from the café car which was good, but not as good as the Green Mountain served on the Downeaster.

On both trains, the crew was both professional and friendly. The Downeaster was a little grimy, but the interiors of the coaches were well kept. The Lake Shore Limited was sparkling clean, and the interior was also clean.


Trip Report - 7-5-04

Empire Service - Albany/Rensselaer - New York Penn Station

I departed from Albany om time at 10:00am on the Empire Service. I chose a seat on the coach behind the cafe car, which had the older "red" interior scheme. Since I never took the Hudson river router before, I rode on the right side of the train so I could watch the river go by. The river valley was foggy, which made the river look peaceful and calm. After the food service car opened I went in and ordered a "microwaved” grilled cheeseburger and a giant cookie. I enjoyed the burger and cookie. A woman who got on at Yonkers (I think) sat next to me, but she was not a conservationist.

The train arrived at Penn Station on time. I never been in Penn station before (I passed through on a regional before) so I looked around the station a little to find the restrooms and a place to eat. I chose to eat at Roy Rogers because it has been many years since I ate at a Roy Rogers.

Regional - New York Penn Station - Boston South Station

The regional arrived 5 minutes late into Penn Station, so we departed about 10 minutes late from Penn Station. One thing I've noticed is that the train was long... I rode 6 cars back from the cafe car, and the cafe car being the second car, and there were at least three cars behind mine... that’s a long train. The car I rode on was in bad need of screw and bolt tightening because everything was rattling. I was not able to find a seat on the "blue" cars which were much quieter. The car I rode was again had the older red interior.

While I was "exploring" the train to get to the cafe car, a gentleman "claimed" my seat. When I got back, I just sat next to him. Turns out he wasn't much of a conversationalist either. What I did get from him is his distaste of riding the train to Providence RI and that he would have drove if his car wasn't being serviced. Also, he apparently was going to a funeral, so I figured by that and the car thing.. he wasn’t in a talking mood. He slept much of the trip... and I did get in an hour long nap (funny how trains rock you to sleep)

Outside of Route 128 station. we had to wait at least an half an hour to allow an acela express, an mbta train, and another regional to pass because of single track operation. We arrived at South Station 45 minutes late. Needless to say, I missed my Downeaster connection at North Station. Knowing that I missed the Downeaster at North Station, I stopped to take a photo of the loco and then I utilized the subways to get to North Station. I asked the ticket agent when the next Downeaster would be and he informed me 10:30. Too late, so I chose to take the next MBTA train to Haverhill. Problem was, MBTA was operating on a Sunday Schedule because of the holiday, so I had to wait two and a half hours for the 8:48 train. so I decided to find someplace to eat. McDonalds was open at North Station, but I refuse to eat their "artificial" food so I went out of North Station to look around. The only restaurant that was open was a local bar and hooters.. so McDonalds it was.


MBTA train from Boston North Station - Haverhill Ma

By this time it was dark outside and I was very tired from the day's activities. I rode in a sparsely populated coach, and the guy sitting in the seat across from me was an excellent conversationalist. He was fascinated about the Albany to New York Amtrak service and asked me if I had an Amtrak schedule with me (which I didn't). He and I chat about everything from Bird watching to whatever.
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Re: Trip Report 6-24-04/7-5-04 (with video)

Postby mattfels » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:26 pm

Let's break down this return trip:

ggardei wrote:Trip Report - 7-5-04
Empire Service - Albany/Rensselaer - New York Penn Station
I departed from Albany on time at 10:00am on the Empire Service.

I'm assuming this was train 254, which would have arrived New York Penn Station at 12:25p.

Regional - New York Penn Station - Boston South Station
The regional arrived 5 minutes late into Penn Station, so we departed about 10 minutes late.

If if was a very quick trip to the restrooms and Roy Rogers, this could have been train 164, which operated on July 5 and is scheduled to depart Penn Station at 12:45p.

We arrived at South Station 45 minutes late. Needless to say, I missed my Downeaster connection at North Station.

Even if Train 164 had been on time into South Station, at 5:25, that would have allowed only 1 hr 10 min to catch Train 689, which departed North Station at 6:35p. How much dwell time does Amtrak advise? And would Back Bay be a better place to detrain?

I refuse to eat [McDonald's] "artificial" food . . .The only restaurant that was open was a local bar and hooters.. so McDonalds it was.

At Hooters the food is real. (Insert punch line here.)

Any way to lose the self-portrait?
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Re: Trip Report 6-24-04/7-5-04 (with video)

Postby dinky » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:40 pm

mattfels wrote:At least at Hooters the food is real.


Most men are more concerned with if the Hooters are real.

Since it was a rail trip involving Amtrak...at least he got the full experience....including the delays!
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Postby David Benton » Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:29 pm

I would have thought 1 our 10 minutes would be plenty of buffer for a connection off a corridor train . If you cant rely on them to be reasonably on time , then they lose alot of thier appeal .

thanks for the video . will download the broad band version tonight .
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Postby mattfels » Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:32 pm

For a same-station transfer, 1 hr 10 min is enough dwell time to guarantee the connection. But this isn't a same-station transfer.

All Amtrak service except the Downeaster stops at the Back Bay and South stations. Downeasters stop at North Station. So there's this matter of "self transfer" across town. And in fact tickets.amtrak.com won't make an itinerary involving trains 164 and 689. Hence the question: What in this particular case constitutes sufficient dwell time to make a connection?
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Postby Otto Vondrak » Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:12 pm

Nice report... were you riding just for fun?

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Postby David Benton » Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:13 pm

I would say 1/2 hour , plus whatevertime it takes to get from one station to another .
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Postby CNJ » Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:22 pm

Nice video there George....

Thanks for sharing it........
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Postby mattfels » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:18 pm

David Benton wrote:I would say

Already did. Unless there's a new thought--or heaven forbid a FACT--no need to repeat.
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Postby David Benton » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:41 pm

"Hence the question: What in this particular case constitutes sufficient dwell time to make a connection?"

I was answereing your question here , which was after my last post ?????

Perhaps you need to read more carefully .

As for Facts , what a person judges to be sufficent time to catch a train at another station is a opinion , not a fact .

anyway this is a trip report , and a very good one , so im done arguing over minor points in it .
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Postby mattfels » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:04 pm

Whether a connection is viable strikes me as a rather major point.
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Postby Rhinecliff » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:04 pm

What a delightful report and video.

Like many others on this forum, I am extremely familiar with the route. It's a treat to see it in video. I particularly enjoyed the footage of Tarrytown Station and surrounding scenes. I boarded the Metro-North from Tarrytown for years.

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Nice trip report

Postby PDT009 » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:29 pm

Very nice trip report. The video is a clever idea. And it's nice to be able to put a face with a name so, it's good that you put in the 'self-portrait'.
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Postby ggardei » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:10 pm

mattfels, your trian nums are correct.. except for the regional time. It was scheduled to depart Penn Station at 1:00 on the dime and arrive at South Station at 5:45, leaving 30 minutes to get to north station.

As for connecting between the north station and south station, it takes 15 minutes on subway at least by going red line to downtown crossing and orange line to north station. (Assuming that they are running on normal weekday schedules) Sunday subway schedule... you may not make it.

Amtrak recommends that you connect to north station via the orange line from Back Bay Station. I perfer South Station because in my opinion, its the better place for taking photos.

To answer someone's question, I went to bible camp in Albany. Riding the train was for a fun way to get there :-)

I we were not delayed because of the one way track operation near route 128 station, I would have made the Downeaster connection. I was not upset that I missed it.

As for riding trains for fun, I am thinking about doing this this fall or mabey winter

Lake Shore Limited from BOS to CHI
(overnight on train)
Cardinal from CHI to PHL
(overnight on train)
(hotel overnight)
PHL to BOS on Regional

Its a four day train trip, and its cheap to! $150 if I go after november! (thats of course without sleeper rooms
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Postby RMadisonWI » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:00 am

Interesting how you have 182 "Tommy G Thompson" on your Downeaster graphic. I had the 182 on the Hiawatha I took a couple of weeks ago.
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