Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby CHTT1 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:29 am

I don't think there is a policy to do away with the remote trains. What happened in British Columbia and Gaspe is that the short line freight railroad the train operated on failed due to a lack of business. There have been attempts to revive both lines, but so far without success. VIA isn't going to pay the full cost of operating these railroads, so no passenger trains.
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby electricron » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:10 pm

CHTT1 wrote:I don't think there is a policy to do away with the remote trains. What happened in British Columbia and Gaspe is that the short line freáeight railroad the train operated on failed due to a lack of business. There have been attempts to revive both lines, but so far without success. VIA isn't going to pay the full cost of operating these railroads, so no passenger trains.

Which appears to be the same failure scenario with the line to Churchill, a lack of freight (goods) business to keep it open.
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 am

CHTT1 wrote:I don't think there is a policy to do away with the remote trains. What happened in British Columbia and Gaspe is that the short line freight railroad the train operated on failed due to a lack of business. There have been attempts to revive both lines, but so far without success. VIA isn't going to pay the full cost of operating these railroads, so no passenger trains.

At the 2013 VIA annual meeting, Vancouver Island local service was brought up at the public comment session (see question #31). VIA stated "We stated that we would resume service as soon as the track was brought back to safe operating standards and that is still our intent". Is this policy statement still the case five years later?
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby Rockingham Racer » Thu May 31, 2018 6:42 am

Might be worth starting another thread, and let this unpleasant saga die.
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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby Mark0f0 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:13 am

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatche ... -1.4737680

Looks like another 2 F40PH's are going to be written off.
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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby MACTRAXX » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:01 pm

Mark: From the looks of the CBC photograph not likely...This will depend on any internal damages
in particular either one of these F40s sustained in this derailment. Sometimes outside appearances
though can be deceiving knowing that is what is inside actually counts the most...

More than likely these two F40s will be out of service upon recovery for a substantial time period.
This is the type of wreck rebuilding Diesel shop crews earn their reputations for correcting.

I have been following the Hudson Bay Line to Churchill topic and agree that it is disappointing for
starters the problems that have been experienced here in any service restoration attempt.

This may take direct Manitoba provincial or Canada Government control to save this route.
Can this be a possibility for what is primarily a First Nations community-based service?

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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby mdvle » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:08 pm

Restoring passenger service if the line gets fixed is a given as VIA is still operating on the non-damaged portion. Service still exists from Winnipeg to Gillam. Looking at VIA's 2017 and 2016 annual reports show that while passenger numbers are down significantly the government subsidy has barely dropped so there really isn't any cost saving to no restore service.

In the meantime the Globe and Mail recently came out for restoring both the rail line and port on national strategic grounds
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-globe-editorial-ottawa-shouldnt-let-churchills-port-and-railway/

And the latest from Omnitrax, including apparently why the sale is held up https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/rail-repairs-to-start-soon-omnitrax-490341091.html
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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby Ken V » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:21 pm

Moderator's note: Posts not related to VIA Rail operations have/will be moved to the Hudson Bay Railway thread in the Canadian Railfan Forum.
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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby mdvle » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:56 am

Per this article, VIA service on the remainder of the line (Winnipeg to Gillum) has been suspended with no timeline for resumption given the new washout at Poton.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ponton-train-derailment-bridge-washout-1.4829735
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