Utica Branch Discussion Thread

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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby JoeCollege » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:19 pm

I was off by a few hours. But both units did return north with 2 loaded bulkhead flats of steel for a customer in the Utica area. First revenue freight since 2006. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ut-1 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:56 pm

Here's a short video featuring today's northbound revenue run:

https://youtu.be/TttWbjTycsc
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby milkman » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:59 am

Nice video ut-1!, I was hoping you would post a video of it.
I video taped the train as it went by our house, but yours is much better.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ricky » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:44 pm

now the line is offcially reopen now all they need is customers who first?
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby milkman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:46 pm

some info on the railroad from the Norwich Evening Sun.
https://www.evesun.com/news/stories/201 ... -business/
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby NYS&W142Fan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:51 pm

milkman wrote:some info on the railroad from the Norwich Evening Sun.
https://www.evesun.com/news/stories/201 ... -business/


Can you please post the content of the article here so those of us who do not have a subscription can read it.

Thanks!
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby milkman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:59 pm

NYS&W142Fan wrote:
milkman wrote:some info on the railroad from the Norwich Evening Sun.
https://www.evesun.com/news/stories/201 ... -business/


Can you please post the content of the article here so those of us who do not have a subscription can read it.

Thanks!


I don't have a subscription to the paper so I can't copy and paste it, but I did buy the paper so I could read the article.
It didn't say a whole lot, just explained how they got the grants to restore the line and that the line is now open and ready for business.
It did mention that they are talking to potential customers in chenango county and else ware along the line.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby johnpbarlow » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:23 am

If NYSW is actively marketing the Utica branch, it has yet to publish tariffs on its web site for points south of Sangerfield/Waterville along the line (eg, there are no tariffs shown for Norwich or Shelburne). The tariffs for the so-called "Utica Group" include only the following stations, which are all serviced from Utica via CSX interchange:
Chadwicks, NY
Clayville, NY
New Hartford, NY
New York Mills, NY
Sangerfield, NY
Paris, NY
Richfield Junction, NY
Utica, NY
Waterville, NY


And at the south end of the Utica branch, the "Binghamton Station Group" references only Binghamton, Chenango Bridge, and Chenango Forks.

Furthermore, in the Lumber and Related Panel Products Tariff document, effective 1/1/2018 through 12/31/2018, is this text:
Utica Station Group: - Interline traffic to/from stations contained in the Utica Station Group must be routed via interchange with the CSX at Utica, NY.


The other published commodities tariffs currently in effect (Grains and related products, plastics, and Fertilizer) indicate the same stipulation re: Utica Station group.

Here's the URL to NYSW corporate web site: http://www.nysw.com/

Perhaps the NYSW web site is not yet up to date wrt new tariffs to market the whole of the Utica line....
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby johnpbarlow » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:57 am

I found this article in today's on-line edition of Railway Track & Structures:

https://www.rtands.com/freight/shortline-regional/nysw-moves-first-freight-on-utica-line-in-12-years/

Excerpts:

The first freight shipment in 12 years on New York Susquehanna and Western (NYSW) Railroad’s Utica Line consisted of a locomotive pulling two flat cars carrying hollow steel beams from Elkhart, Ind., to New York Mills near Utica, N.Y.


So I'm guessing these two centerbeam cars were interchanged from NS at Binghamton.

And:
CCIDA [County of Chenango Industrial Development Agency] hopes the steel beam shipment will be the first of many as the restored freight rail service is now being marketed to potential customers in Chenango County and elsewhere on the NYSW system.
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