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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby mdvle » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:42 pm

XC Tower wrote:Any further word on possible repairs and resumption of service?
Thank you for any information.
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Best way is to search "news churchill rail line" in a search engine.

Things did however progress with counter claims this week with the Government of Canada filing its threatened lawsuit, and Omnitrax filing an arbitration claim under NAFTA.

http://www.thompsoncitizen.net/news/nickel-belt/feds-file-lawsuit-against-omnitrax-which-responds-with-nafta-arbitration-claim-1.23095943
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Postby Gilbert B Norman » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:50 pm

One could say that the community of Churchill is landlocked. They have no rail access, they have no highways, air costs "too much" for the populace, the maritime port is a "fizzle".

What on earth has the community to offer?

If wealthy Polar Bear hunters/watchers whatever want to go up there, pay what they must to fly in and what they must for lodging and their guides. Otherwise, the place is bust.

But something tells me the "Libby gang" holding power in Ottawa "don't exactly" see things that way.

Prediction: "Help is on the way".
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby NS VIA FAN » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:32 am

Churchill is no different than any other town across the north. Even if shipping from the port is gone....it is still a service community and requires access from the surrounding areas. It is expensive to live there but just the way of life in the north and if the Government has to subsidize travel and living expenses....so be it!

Iqaluit (pop 6,700)....

https://www.city.iqaluit.nu.ca/visitors/explore-iqaluit

.......is the capital city of Nunavut. It has no road or rail access. Just marine..... and a big new airport terminal:

http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/a ... beautiful/

And for the ‘Airfan’ out there.....this is the airport (formerly Frobisher Bay) where Airbus comes to do there cold weather testing (including the A380)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0QY6CbIXhw

Look at these airline route maps and the only way in/out for most is by air (Some do have marine access for short periods)

http://www.canadiannorth.com/sites/defa ... 3AUG17.pdf

https://firstair.ca/book/routemap/

I travel for work to a community along the Labrador coast and it is farther south than Churchill. Again, the only way in and out is by air or coastal boat (which was once operated by CN)

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopi ... #p13121781
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby renf » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:46 pm

With global warming, will the port of Churchill eventually become a busy gateway for world wide shipping?
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby mtuandrew » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:55 pm

Not without a functional railroad! (Or a highway, or suitable land for development. Tough to build on soggy muskeg.) I’m still looking for most Canadian overseas-bound grain to go via Thunder Bay, Duluth, Vancouver, or Prince Rupert, even with higher seas.
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby mdvle » Fri May 04, 2018 2:37 pm

Possible movement in a new group buy the railway and getting it operating again

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/churchill-railway-buyers-manitoba-first-nations-1.4648133
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Re: Hudson Bay Railway (OmniTRAX / iChurchhill)

Postby Jeff Smith » Thu May 24, 2018 10:22 am

Purchase now in doubt due to lack of flood repair funds: ProgressiveRailroading.com

iChurchill calls off Hudson Bay Railway acquisition

iChurchill Inc. is stepping away from its plan to acquire the flood-damaged Hudson Bay Railway and Port of Churchill in northern Manitoba, Canada, the private company announced yesterday.

Earlier this month, a group of Manitoba First Nations and iChurchill announced they had reached an agreement to buy the rail line, port and associated assets, which are owned by OmniTRAX Inc.

The rail line, which operates between Gillam and Churchill, has been inoperable since portions of it were washed out by floods in May 2017. OmniTRAX has declined to make the repairs related to the flooding, claiming they were "not economically feasible" and that the Canadian government should cover the cost.

In a statement released yesterday, iChurchill officials said they've halted negotiations to finalize the purchase due to the Canadian government's "unwillingness to engage in meaningful dialogue."
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Re: VIA Train to Churchill Suspended Indefinitely

Postby Ken V » Wed May 30, 2018 10:17 pm

There's another tentative agreement for Omnitrax to sell the HBR to native groups.
The tracks have sat flood-damaged and idle for more than a year, but now a tentative deal has been struck to bring ownership of the Port of Churchill and the rail line to the northern Manitoba community on the shore of Hudson Bay back into Canadian hands.

Two groups representing northern communities and First Nations — One North and Missinippi Rail LP — joined forces with Fairfax Financial Holdings and now have an agreement in principle to buy the beleaguered assets from American company Omnitrax, the federal government announced Wednesday afternoon.

Full story at http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.4683786.
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Re: Hudson Bay Railway (OmniTRAX / iChurchill)

Postby Ken V » Wed May 30, 2018 10:29 pm

There's another tentative agreement for Omnitrax to sell the HBR to native groups.
The tracks have sat flood-damaged and idle for more than a year, but now a tentative deal has been struck to bring ownership of the Port of Churchill and the rail line to the northern Manitoba community on the shore of Hudson Bay back into Canadian hands.

Two groups representing northern communities and First Nations — One North and Missinippi Rail LP — joined forces with Fairfax Financial Holdings and now have an agreement in principle to buy the beleaguered assets from American company Omnitrax, the federal government announced Wednesday afternoon.

Full story at http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.4683786.

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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby mdvle » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:24 pm

The Canadian Transportation Agency has ruled against Omnitrax, giving them until July 3 to start repairs to the line and to provide monthly progress reports until the line reopens.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/churchill-railway-ruling-omnitrax-1.4707524
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Re: Hudson Bay Railway Churchill (OmniTRAX / iChurchill)

Postby Ken V » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:45 pm

Here we go again...
An anticipated purchase deal for the Hudson Bay Railway line from The Pas., Man., to Churchill appears to have broken down.

"Over the past several months we have been working with the consortium to finalize the sale of the HBR. Despite our best efforts to find common ground on certain key issues, it now appears that this transaction has fallen apart and that a sale of the HBR to this group may not be possible," said a news release from Omnitrax, which currently owns the rail and port.

"This outcome is unexpected and very unfortunate. We offer our apologies to all those who depend on the line."

Full story: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.4732123
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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby XC Tower » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:24 pm

Is there a possibility of repairs being paid by the Canadian government to reopen this line before winter, with a law suit pending against Omnitrax for financial recompense in the future? How quickly the track can be repaired I do not know nor how long the weather window lasts to do so, I do not know, but one thing for sure is my feeling for the folks living in Churchill.....



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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby electricron » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:40 pm

Omnitrax asked for financial aid to repair the tracks in this corridor, and no government wished to do so. Why would they now wish to?

The simplest solution for long term economic development of the Churchill area is to build a road to it, even a gravel road would be better than a washed out railroad, and cheaper to repair when the need arises.
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Postby R36 Combine Coach » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:31 pm

Sounds like Alaska Highway, 1942.
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Re: Hudson Bay Line to Churchill/VIA Service Suspensions

Postby XC Tower » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:22 pm

I understand the “gravel road” economics, but how much is there a save “our railway” mentality in Churchill?…………To this day, some 30 years later, I imagine that there may be a degree of this still be remembered in Newfoundland after CN decided to yank their narrow-gauge railway....Of course, these situations are completely different...


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