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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby R&DB » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:15 pm

MOM's original concept was to relieve traffic congestion on the US-9 and possibly NJ-18 (to New Brunswick) corridors. Hence the original preferred routing through Monmouth Junction. The other routes via Red Bank or Matawan could relieve some congestion for riders with N. Jersey or NYC destinations. The Mon. Jct. route will most likely never be built do to NIMBY attitude in North Brunswick, Jamesburg and Manalapan. (The latter 2 don't even like the twice weekly 10 mph freight trains.) The route through Freehold to Matawan has the same NIMBY situation in Manalapan and Marlboro. So the only viable alignment is through Red Bank. This only relieves highway congestion from the lower part of US-9, but would still be beneficial to residents of northern Ocean and western Monmouth counties.

So here's another solution to US-9 traffic pollution:
Rebuild the CSao Southern Secondary to FRA Class 3 or 4 and add some passing sidings.
Build stations at necessary points.
Buy some FRA compliant DMUs.
Run trains Lakehurst to Red Bank.

Layover in RB in NJT MoW yard and in Lakehurst on the Navy spur. (add more spurs inside the base as necessary) The added maintenance costs of the DMUs could be offset by removal of some of the Lakewood - NYC buses.
Freehold - Red Bank service via Farmingdale could be added later further reducing US-9 traffic. The former PRR station in F'Hold is currently a NJT bus stationand is run by a private contractor. It could be re-furbished to a full NJT rail/bus station. Layover and room for another commuter park/ride facility could be created in the farmland just south of Iron Mountain (formerly Brockway Glass) on Business NJ-33. This would have much better highway access than Freehold Center. The rail turn-out for Brockway still exists, but could be made into a wye. DMUs from Freehold Center could stop at the park/ride, engineer changes end while loading and then continues on toward Red Bank. The biggest problem in downtown Freehold even before any rail service is parking. Build a parking garage with the borough sharing the cost.

North Jersey Coast line trains could have cars added on those trains that would interchange at Red Bank. No additional trains on the NEC or into NYP. The overnight layover yards at Lakehurst would only need cleaning, water, sewerage and minimal servicing capabilities. I don't know if NJT has fueling capability in RB, but that's easily fixed. DMUs could fuel up there while waiting for the next south (RR west) bound NJCL train. The only bottleneck I see is NYC/North Jersey bound passengers would have to get from the west platform to the east platform at Red Bank because the DMUs would only have access to the west platform. (due to track configuration) A covered pedestrian bridge or tunnel would be nice.

All of the above would be much lower cost to NJ taxpayers while gaining the highest possible ridership and improving the US-9 congestion. Also much more environmentally friendly. 1 single-level DMU car could take 100 cars or 2 buses off the road. Extending the southern terminus from Lakehurst to Toms River could gain even more ridership and reduce some GS Parkway commuter congestion. The whole project HAS TO BE time competitive with highway travel for commuters to use it at all. High running speeds and as few stops as possible would be necessary.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby mtuandrew » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:54 pm

My impossible dream is rail in the US 9 median South Amboy-Freehold, along with triple track on the NJCL north of Amboy and a shuttle Perth Amboy-Jamesburg. If NJ can get its construction costs more in line with the national average, it would complement Gateway well.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby R&DB » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:35 pm

mtuandrew » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:54 pm

My impossible dream is rail in the US 9 median South Amboy-Freehold,...

'Impossible dream' is absolutely right, LOL! :-D Great idea, but there is no median south of the US-9 / NJ-18 junction in Old Bridge. Moving hundreds of businesses and widening the highway to create a median would take the entire state treasury. Cheaper to buy out the NIMBYs and go via Jamesburg.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby lensovet » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:09 am

found this on my computer the other day…june 2000
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby R&DB » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:37 pm

Does anyone know if NJT researched extending service to Whiting during the original studies? If so, what did they find? Most of the population there would not be commuting but a shopping / show train migt gain some riders. One train a day leaving Whitiing 9-10 am would be sufficient. Terminate at Red Bank.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby braves » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:36 am

Anything new on whats happening with the study & will this study finally get off the ground.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:47 am

MOM isn't going to happen, at least anytime soon. NJT has enough issues to take care of with it's own equipment as well as along the right of ways closer to the city. The original MOM plan would have been to take the NEC to Midway Interlocking and then travel on the Jamesburg Branch and whatever the track is through Englishtown and Freehold and then head south from Freehold following Rt 9 to Lakewood and maybe Lakehurst. That routing takes too long. Plus for those people who live along Rt. 9 in Freehold onto Lakewood-they are served by NJT's busiest commuter bus route to NYC-the 139. There are other bus routes to NYC in the towns along the route or very close like Jamesburg and Englishtown.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:29 pm

This project is now in cold storage,there're way more important things to be done like ACSES equipment installs,
or loose access to NY Penn and 30th street in Philly.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby MaRoFu » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:52 pm

As of now, this project is dormant.

As previously stated, NJT currently has a LOT of stuff to take care of, such as PTC installation, crew shortages, funding the Gateway Project, and much much more.

Not to mention the Northern Branch project, the Lackawanna Cutoff restoration, and the Bayfront HBLR station are way more important projects for NJT outside of Gateway, so I'm pretty sure that's where all the non-Gateway project funding is going to right now.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby braves » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:06 pm

Was a DEIS ever completed on this study since there were alternatives for this study before the ARC project was cancelled back in October 2010.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby R&DB » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:00 pm

njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:47 am

Plus for those people who live along Rt. 9 in Freehold onto Lakewood-they are served by NJT's busiest commuter bus route to NYC-the 139.


That was the point of the MOM project to begin with, getting some of the enormous traffic load off of Rt.9! I live 1 mile from the middle of that area and avoid Rt 9 whenever possible.

In agreement with what has been said in posts above, MOM will not happen until other (more pressing) things get done.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby GSC » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:54 am

NJT has so many other things going on, we won't see this for a very long time. But it should happen someday. The railroads were in such a big hurry to end ferry service, until someone realized they were a needed entity. And they are back. They also were in a hurry to tear up little-used lines, but now there is a need for them again. At least the old Southern Division is still in place, and the Freehold & Jamesburg line to Farmingdale still exists.

We all agree the MOM is needed and should be opened. Not if, but when.

My take has always been to begin at Toms River. Get off Ciba-Geigy's back in exchange for a yard and park-and-ride lot, easing the Parkway's gridlock. Take the MOM to Red Bank, and also to Freehold and up to South Amboy. A back-up route is not a bad idea. Years ago, when the Matawan Trestle burned, detours that worked were set up by both the CNJ and the PRR. Today, one bridge outage or trees or wires down on the NJCL brings everything to a screeching halt. Just one line is too limiting.

The every-Thursday lumber train going to Lakewood, to the delight of area railfans, brings materials to build more housing, and people, who will ultimately need better transportation. The roads can't handle what we have now, and they're inviting more people to move in. Sooner or later, someone in authority just might notice and comprehensive rail transit will once again roll. (Maybe?)
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby ApproachMedium » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:11 am

I keep saying if they built a platform in red bank and ran either LRT cars, or just a shuttle to connect with mainline trains at red bank you would have ridership instantly without messing up the traffic in red bank too much more than it already is.

The idea of detours would be fantastc. Putting electric on the old amboy branch to put some kind of short loop MU commuter nonsense between the corridor would be a weekenders dream come true. Instead of running a dead loop at north brunswick, have trains turn off at rahway go down to south amboy, up the connection at SA, down to sayerville back up at monmouth jct and then head back to NY. Even on a weekday, this would be a good cycle system to keep college people, workers from new brunswick etc off the roads and on the train.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby MaRoFu » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:58 am

An important thing to mention is the fact that the Freehold Secondary, even though it has been turned into a trail, is still owned by NJT. That means NJT has the right to rip up the trail and restore service, but I'm not sure how smoothly this will go.
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Re: MOM Rail Service

Postby R&DB » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:34 am

MaRoFu » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:58 am

An important thing to mention is the fact that the Freehold Secondary, even though it has been turned into a trail, is still owned by NJT.


Minor corrections:
If you mean the Henry Hudson Trail, you are correct about ownership. That is the old CNJ Freehold Branch from Matawan to Freehold. The Freehold Secondary (aka Freehold Industrial Track) is the line from Jamesburg through Freehold to Farmingdale, with the portion between Freehold and Farmingdale out of service. This line owned by NJ Dept. of Transportation.
Both lines have a MAJOR NIMBY issue. Until Rt 9 traffic comes to a standstill, MOM will not be considered.
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