First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby MACTRAXX » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:32 am

Everyone: A shortage of cab cars as noted is the reason that the "All Day" push-pull train has been
MIA lately. At least we have an idea what the problem is.

With the surplus motors has RRD thought of using two ACS64s (on each end) on one push-pull set
to free up at least one cab car? Could this be an additional test to see if running two motors on one
train at least would work? I remember when NJT used two ALP46 motors in this manner on some
long (10-11 multilevels) trains back when they were new. Will power draw on the RDG side be a
problem meaning that a train run in this manner would have to be run to/from Suburban Station?

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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby CNJGeep » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:50 am

Yes, you can run a train with two engines. It's a rocketship. The bigger problem, however, is that now you would have a three car train, since there really aren't any spare trailers either. 9530 and 4571 can not be shorted. They are already SRO. As for power issues north of the phase break, they have been largely ameliorated by the ongoing substation project funded by Act 89.

As for moving a cab car off another set, it's really just easier to run the short train as MUs, rather than having a yard crew making moves all night to drill out a cab car.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby Silverliner II » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:34 am

CNJGeep wrote:As for moving a cab car off another set, it's really just easier to run the short train as MUs, rather than having a yard crew making moves all night to drill out a cab car.

When the time comes to get a different cab leading on a set, most times, it ends up being drilled out of another set anyway, so that is not really a big deal.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby mcgrath618 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:57 am

Just left 30th on its way to Elwyn.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby Silverliner II » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:43 pm

And multiple cars in the consist have been swapped out. The train still has 910 for the locomotive, but coaches are now 2558, 2523, 2559, and cab 2402.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby CNJGeep » Fri May 10, 2019 10:15 am

The cab car and motor have been swapped.
2405 is making a debut into revenue service following overhaul, and 904 has replaced the 910.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby glennk419 » Sun May 12, 2019 11:26 am

CNJGeep wrote:The cab car and motor have been swapped.
2405 is making a debut into revenue service following overhaul, and 904 has replaced the 910.


A new horn must have been part of the rehab. It sounded sweet coming into Roslyn on Friday.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby JeffK » Mon May 13, 2019 12:28 pm

Naïve question here: Does anyone know why 3234 is Push-Pull? I was under the impression that the ACS64s were mechanically happier on limited-stop runs.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby mcgrath618 » Mon May 13, 2019 2:12 pm

[quote="JeffK":*]Naïve question here: Does anyone know why 3234 is Push-Pull? I was under the impression that the ACS64s were mechanically happier on limited-stop runs.[/quote:*]

That's been the whole discussion in this thread. 3234 is one run of a set that goes around all day. IIRC some SEPTA exec didn't like them sitting around while we wait for the SEPTA IV cars, so they're seeing how one does as it goes around all day.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby JeffK » Tue May 14, 2019 1:25 pm

Thank you. I should've been more diligent in plowing through the thread's earlier pages, urgghh. 😳
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby nova08 » Tue May 14, 2019 3:03 pm

The set did not operate on the Norristown line today.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby Silverliner II » Tue May 14, 2019 9:46 pm

nova08 wrote:The set did not operate on the Norristown line today.

It had Silverliner V's yesterday and today. The same set today as yesterday, in fact.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby CNJGeep » Wed May 15, 2019 11:50 am

Coaches once more today. 2406 east, 913 west.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby glennk419 » Wed May 15, 2019 3:27 pm

3420 outbound through Roslyn at 4:28, about 20 minutes down.
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Re: First "All-Day" Push-Pull Set coming soon...

Postby glennk419 » Thu May 16, 2019 3:08 pm

3420 right on time today.
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