23 new Talgo-trains for German intercity-network

Discussion about railroad topics everywhere outside of North America.

Moderators: Komachi, David Benton

23 new Talgo-trains for German intercity-network

Postby ALR997 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:51 pm

Hi together,

as Deutsche Bahn announced on tuesday, the German national railway will order at least 23 sets of Talgo-trains for intercity-services, especially on routes with different current-systems or sections without any electrification. Different to all other 21st-century-long-distance-trains in Germany these trains will be able to change the usual Talgo-locomotive in place to a diesel locomotive (already delivered by Bombardier).

https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/presse/pressestart_zentrales_uebersicht/Deutsche-Bahn-bestellt-23-neue-Fernverkehrsz%C3%BCge-beim-spanischen-Hersteller-Talgo--3763624

It is expected to see these trains in the later 2020s possibly on these routes:
    Hamburg - Berchtesgaden
    Dortmund - Oberstdorf
    Cologne- Westerland
    Karlsruhe - Westerland
    Dresden - Westerland

The contract consists of 23 fixed trainsets and leaves an option to 77 more trains in the next few years. The train itself will be able to run on a speed up to 230 km/h in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands so it also can replace some international InterCity- and EuroCity-services. In 2023 the first trains will be introduced into service and will offer the same level of comfort as the ICE-trains.

This order is revolutionary for DB's long-distance-sector where the classic manufacturers have been Siemens, Bombardier and some smaller partners for a long time. It has been quite likely that an adaption of the Siemens Railjet would be the winner of the invitation to tender. After several problems with trains produced by Siemens (ICE3, ICE4) and the major problem called "IC2" (by Bombardier) DB signals to them, regarding the growing market of manufacturers both inside and outside Europe, that such an insufficiency cannot be tolerated anymore.

In the mid-2020s the DB rolling stock will include about 450 trainsets:
    50 ICE1 (modernized and reduced trainsets with 9 coaches)
    20 ICE2 (modernized and reconfigurated)
    48 ICE3
    16 ICE3 (multi-current-capable, to run on international routes to the Netherlands and Belgium)
    17 ICE3M (Velaro, multi-current-capable, to run on international routes to France and Belgium)
    59 ICE-T7
    11 ICE-T5 (shorter form of ICE-T7)
    50 ICE4-12 (12 coaches)
    50 ICE4-13 (13 coaches)
    37 ICE4-7 (7 coaches)
    27 IC2-1
    17 IC2-2 (able to run in Switzerland)
    25 IC2-3
    23 "IC3" (new Talgo-train)

Best regards from Germany
ALR997
 
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:24 am
Location: Germany

Re: 23 new Talgo-trains for German intercity-network

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:05 pm

they are meant for service between Amsterdam/Hamburg/Berlin.

They won't be in service till 2023.

https://www.railwaypro.com/wp/db-and-ta ... 00-trains/
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

Retired Triebfahrzeugführer. I am not a moderator.
User avatar
DutchRailnut
 
Posts: 22139
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:02 pm
Location: released from Stalag 13

Re: 23 new Talgo-trains for German intercity-network

Postby RRspatch » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:27 am

I find it interesting that DB is ordering Talgo equipment again. If you remember DB did try out Talgo equipment on the München to Berlin run back in the 90's. Supposedly DB was not very happy with the trains and they are now stored out of service somewhere.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... Talgo1.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... -7_MH2.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/car ... -0_MH2.jpg
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
Is just a freight train coming your way

No leaf clover ~ Metallica.
RRspatch
 
Posts: 220
Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:22 am
Location: Fort Worth, Texas


Return to Worldwide Railfan

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests