DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Station

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Re: Franklin Square reopening? Not any time soon.

Postby chuchubob » Thu May 07, 2015 7:10 am

DRPA seeking federal funds to reopen Franklin Square station.
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New 2 mil study on Franklin Sq reopening

Postby mm670 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:46 pm

The DRPA approved a contract with Burns Engineering Inc for a $2 million study on the reopening of the Franklin Square Station. Construction cost is estimated to be between $27 to $28 million and the station would have an annual $800,000 operating budget. Full story at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/t ... 70920.html.
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Re: Franklin Square reopening? Not any time soon.

Postby Bill R. » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:21 pm

Typical of the DRPA. Let's spend $2 million (!?!) on a study on the possibility of reopening the station. I hope it will at least include a strategy for creating safe pedestrian access for the residential area between the Ben Franklin Bridge and the I-95 ramps.

I think reopening the station is a viable proposition, but the chance for success of the station increases substantially if the service frequencies off-peak match those of SEPTA's heavy rail lines. This could be accomplished by running additional service between 15/16th & Locust station and the pocket track at Ferry Avenue, eliminating the additional operating costs for providing an unnecessary service increase east of Camden. The off-peak PATCO headways aren't attractive for movement between locations within Philadelphia. This is, in part, a manifestation of the mindset that PATCO is the train for NJ, with little utility for city residents.

Furthermore, the increased service could further justify the placement of a PATCO infill station at Kaighn Avenue in Camden, providing rail access to the adjacent retail corridor along Haddon Avenue and the residential Parkside neighborhood just beyond. Kaighn Avnue is at the center of a large gap between stations, and the proposed station is roughly as far from from Ferry Avenue as the distance between Collingswood and Westmont.
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DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Station

Postby zebrasepta » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:19 pm

CAMDEN – The Delaware River Port Authority will apply for a federal grant to finance half of the estimated $26.4 million cost to reopen the Franklin Square Station of its PATCO transit line.


Reopening the station on the line between South Jersey and Philadelphia will require physical and technological upgrades. Located at the western side of the Benjamin Franklin Bridge between 6th and 7th streets, it was closed 39 years ago due to declining ridership to and from that station.
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Re: DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Sta

Postby mcgrath618 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:41 pm

Hopefully the current administration will give them the money they need.
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Re: DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Sta

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:58 pm

How much of the station shell remains intact? Would the $26 million require rebuilding the existing station shell into a new station or moderate upgrades (installation of elevators, recondition of existing platforms) would be acceptable?
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Re: DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Sta

Postby Patrick Boylan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:25 am

From what I and thousands of others can see from the train the existing station at track level is intact. One should be able to assume that the rest of the station that's out of view from the tracks is in no worse shape.
I think I remember that the $26 million figure includes not only elevators at the existing stairways, but new stairs and elevators on the south side of Race St.
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Re: DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Sta

Postby dcipjr » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:40 am

They've been talking about reopening this station since, what, 2009? I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Sta

Postby mcgrath618 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:40 am

dcipjr wrote:They've been talking about reopening this station since, what, 2009? I'll believe it when I see it.

This is a lot different than "talking about it." This is PATCO applying for money to actually do it. This is as close to it reopening as it ever has been.
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Re: Franklin Square reopening? Not any time soon.

Postby liftedjeep » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:34 pm

PATCO's Latest Bid to Reopen Franklin Square:

http://www2.philly.com/philly/columnist ... 80928.html

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Re: Franklin Square reopening? Not any time soon.

Postby zebrasepta » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:19 pm

Mods should just merge this thread
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=168027
with this one.
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Re: DRPA seeking federal money to reopen Franklin Square Sta

Postby Jeff Smith » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:41 pm

Done.
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