L Train BMT Canarsie Line 14th St Tunnel Manhattan Closure

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Re: L Train BMT Canarsie Line 14th St Tunnel Manhattan Closu

Postby ExCon90 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:55 pm

... or do it the quick way and do it all over again in about 20 years.
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Re: L Train BMT Canarsie Line 14th St Tunnel Manhattan Closu

Postby andrewjw » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:54 pm

They will at least be making many of the longer-term upgrades which had been promised with the shutdown. https://new.mta.info/l-project

Also - the Times paywall activates after you view some number of articles. So if you hit it you can open them in Private Browsing / Incognito mode. (Same with Washington Post.)
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Re: L Train BMT Canarsie Line 14th St Tunnel Manhattan Closu

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:58 am

Mr. Andrewjw, good to learn that The Times paywall does not plug the knotholes immediately.

Even though Gray Lady labels this material as News Analysis, it rings of Opinion to me. It certainly represents a departure from her Editorial Board which has held that Andy (Cuomo) should "just sit down and listen to the professionals".

Obviously, if Andy is right in that adequate repairs can be made with less disruption to people's (aka voters) lives, then a true service has been done (my Niece lived along the L Line). If not, they'll just be back for more patchwork:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/sund ... ubway.html

Fair Use:

...In a famous medical study, two doctors traced a chain of errors that brought the wrong patient, a “Mrs. Morris,” to an operating room for an invasive heart procedure that she did not want, did not need and that no one had actually ordered for her.

It turned out that 17 separate mistakes were made before anyone realized that the wrong woman was on the table. Thankfully, Mrs. Morris was not harmed. The doctors said it was an “organizational accident,” meaning that one person could not have done it alone. Sticking tubes into the wrong person’s heart required mess-ups by many people.

One day, Mrs. Morris may be joined in the great case studies of near blunders by New York’s L train fiasco. This one took a team of people, too.

Right after the New Year, Gov. Andrew Cuomo made the startling announcement that New York City’s L subway line, whose East River tunnel was damaged by Hurricane Sandy in 2012, could remain in service while fixes were carried out...
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Re: L Train BMT Canarsie Line 14th St Tunnel Manhattan Closu

Postby flexliner » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:20 am

Read somewhere that the plan proposed by the gov was already considered by the teams studying and planning the repairs
and rejected by them
so it certainly is not something brand new
if i find the reference will post it
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Re: L Train BMT Canarsie Line 14th St Tunnel Manhattan Closu

Postby Backshophoss » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:03 pm

The Cuomo plan continues the "Band Aid" patch and "Meatball" repair drill,that wont work! :P
The 15 month close and rebuild from scratch plan is what's needed here!! :wink:
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