Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter Rail

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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby MaineCoonCat » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:48 pm

PBMcGinnis wrote:And as mentioned by Newpylong, insurance, insurance, insurance!
Liability insurance
Property insurance
Equipment insurance
Health insurance of personnel
Indemnification clauses to operate over the same freight lines

There is a lot of capital needed just at start up.


Wasn't insurance one of the sticking points with PAR (or was it Guilford at the time) when the Downeaster was in it's beginning stages? I doubt their viewpoint on insurance has changed.
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby b&m 1566 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:09 am

BS Railroad, hahahah!... I like that. I'd like to think of it as a more colorful railroad though, so I'm going to call it the Candy Land Railroad.


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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby lakest101 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:15 am

Well this is interesting:

https://publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=1971015

But only one unit?
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby GP40MC1118 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:15 am

They actually won 2 units...2011 & 2027 according to a post on Facebook (Cape Cod Model RR Club & Museum).

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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby Lentinula » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:16 pm

So it's actually happening?
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby Ridgefielder » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:17 pm

Yes, that is interesting. Actually acquiring locomotives suitable for commuter service-- albeit ancient ones-- is a tangible step toward doing something.

Still need rolling stock, though.
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby BandA » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:36 pm

This is good news; Probably cheaper than leasing? I assume rehabbing these units for the pilot will cost at least as much as they paid. One good thing - these units are so old they can't depreciate, right? So they can use them for a while until they can afford something spiffier, then sell them & get their money back?

Shouldn't they have bought 3 locomotives - two to run in the pilot & one as a parts donor?

I think they previously announce lease options on coaches?
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby FatNoah » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:38 am

Yes, that is interesting. Actually acquiring locomotives suitable for commuter service-- albeit ancient ones-- is a tangible step toward doing something


Hell, if these locomotives even make one trip on that line, I think this forum owes someone a nice fruit basket or something. :-D
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby Otto Vondrak » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:06 pm

Lentinula wrote:So it's actually happening?


If by "it" you mean they are the winning bidder for two locomotives, yes.

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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby lakest101 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:10 pm

All "it" means is that they are spending money - which we knew they were doing before.

A non public process is frustrating in the extreme for interested parties.
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Re: Boston Surface Railroad: Worcester-Providence Commuter R

Postby b&m 1566 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:31 pm

I'm still very skeptical of this whole railroad but for the "sake of discussion", I would like to look even further outside the box. Let's say 20 years from now the BSRR is up and running to Concord, NH. What's to stop this railroad from going further north and tapping into the summer and fall tourist market in the Lakes Region of NH? If these investors truly believe there's potential in what they are trying to accomplish now, surely there has to be potential at the seasonal level for the Lakes Region, no?


Anyways, I stumbled across this article, it doesn't really discuss anything that we don't already know about but non the less, I still found it interesting to read.
https://www.nhbr.com/September-28-2018/ ... -up-steam/
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