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Re: SunRail Expansion Possibilities?

Postby NIMBYkiller » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:15 pm

Nor is there much of anything along I-4 between Deland and Daytona. Running along 44 though allows it to be easily connected to the FEC tracks, where as a routing via I-4 would have a hell of a time securing a ROW between the Daytona Airport and the FEC. Honestly, I see Daytona as outside of the scope of Sunrail, but it certainly makes sense if they wanted to extend a Tampa-Orlando service to Jacksonville via the FEC instead of via Palatka
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Re: SunRail Expansion Possibilities?

Postby Jeff Smith » Wed May 04, 2016 6:01 pm

So while the southern leg to Poinciana progresses, Deland will not be funded this go-round:

News-Journal

In "the 11th hour," the Florida Department of Transportation decided not to seek a $25 million grant for the long-awaited DeLand SunRail station.

On Tuesday, a department spokesman attempted to explain why it prepared an application, which was to have been accompanied by some 180 letters of support, only to reach "consensus" in meeting with the Tallahassee office on Friday that it should not go forward.

Meanwhile, DeLand officials said they were "puzzled" and disappointed that the decision leaves the community "further and further behind" as more than $3 billion worth of transit-oriented development along the SunRail corridor has occurred — none of it in Volusia County.

A week after SunRail officials celebrated the start of construction of a 17.2-mile extension of the line south into Osceola County, department spokesman Steve Olson explained that the pursuit of a TIGER grant was not the best course of action for the other planned 12 miles of track going north to just west of DeLand.


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Davis said his frustration also stems from the fact that Volusia County has done everything required of it — including setting aside $34 million a year and a half ago to cover its share of maintaining the system — to try to make the extension happen.
“At this rate, SunRail is not going to DeLand,” he said. “We can’t afford it. It would cost something like $120 million and Volusia County government doesn’t have it.”
If SunRail ultimately doesn’t go north from DeBary, Davis said there are provisions that could result in Volusia County’s share of the system’s costs being decreased.
“We’ve already had that discussion with FDOT, and told them that if it’s not going to DeLand, we’re not going to pay,” he said. “FDOT agrees. Somewhere in the documents is a statement that we might get an adjustment on our share of the costs” if the DeLand leg is not built.
Expanding SunRail northward involves laying a parallel 12.1 miles of tracks in the CSX rail corridor between DeBary and DeLand, as well as construction of a DeLand SunRail station, improving at-grade road crossings, and installing signalization along the route.
The price tag for all of that is now estimated at $70.3 million, or about $1.3 million higher than the 2015 estimate of $69 million for that Phase 2 North segment.
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Re: SunRail Expansion Possibilities?

Postby Jeff Smith » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:53 am

http://www.aroundosceola.com/new-date-f ... mmer-2018/

New date for SunRail: summer 2018?

SunRail’s appearance in Osceola County may be delayed — again.

At Monday’s Osceola County Commission’s meeting, Commissioner Viviana Janer, who also sits on the Central Florida Rail Commission, relayed that she was told trains may not start running south out of Orange County until possibly June or July 2018.

That is a delay from the last quote of February 2018, which is still two years later than the promise of seeing the white, yellow and orange trains in Kissimmee and Poinciana in 2016, when state and federal funding to the tune of $93 million was secured for the project back in 2014.
The rail commission, which will take over operation and funding of the rail line from the Florida Department of Transportation in 2021, still held out hope of starting service “early” in 2018.
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Re: SunRail Expansion / Extensions

Postby Jeff Smith » Wed May 16, 2018 8:50 am

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Re: SunRail Expansion / Extensions

Postby adamj023 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:41 pm

I am surprised it took so long for commuter rail to arrive in Orlando considering how long Disney World has been out and how the community has grown and evolved over the years and considering Disney World already had a monorail in place.

The Phase 2 South makes sense considering what usage would be. But the Phase 2 North which is stalled doesn’t seem to make much financial sense given the low traffic on the corridor which is why it has been stalled.

With gas prices as they are, I am more than sure that Phase 2 South will be a success with high utilization as more people are aware of the stations and Sunrail.

Commuter Rail in metro areas is making more sense than ever.
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Re: SunRail Expansion / Extensions

Postby chrsjrcj » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:44 am

Too bad the south extension is still miles away from Disney World.

Unfortunately, Florida's development pattern does not support good transit. We seem pretty content on continuing to sprawl, and destroying local habitats in the process.
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Re: SunRail Expansion / Extensions

Postby adamj023 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:47 am

Real estate prices in Orlando are not cheap anymore in nice areas. Was looking at land prices online. Expanding Sunrail probably will factor into higher pricing as well. It seems odd that Sunrail doesn’t have any weekend or holiday service even in the new enhanced schedules. That is contrary to other transit agencies which actually have increased services on holidays and have full weekend service. Perhaps that will change.

All Sunrail does is add a second track on the existing train lline and right of way. Considering Phase 2 North to Deland can’t evne get funded, it doesn’t look like Sunrail will expand further anytime soon.
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