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Beverly Draw- Failure Discussion

Postby caduceus » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:09 am

WBZ is reporting that a barge struck and damaged the Beverly Draw and its been closed. The MBTA is urging riders north of Salem on the Newburyport/Rockport lines to use alternate modes.
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Postby octr202 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:42 am

The news reports this morning first said that a bus diversion was in place between Beverly and Salem, then that there was no service at all (this was about 6:45 am).

MBTA.com at 7:30:
Commuter Rail Newburyport/Rockport service experiencing significant delays due to damage to Beverly drawbridge. A bus shuttle is running between Beverly and Salem Stations. This is a significant service impact. Please allow extra time for your commute or seek an alternate route. 12/21/2007 7:21 AM


Also, looks like the later Anderson/Woburn turns either have their equipment trapped on the North Shore, or were scrubbed to provide service up to Salem:
Commuter Rail Lowell Line: trains #353 (7:40am outbound),#354 (8:15am inbound), #355 (7:55am outbound), #356 (8:30am inbound) canceled 12/21/2007 7:19 AM
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Postby Diverging Route » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:51 am

octr202 wrote:The news reports this morning first said that a bus diversion was in place between Beverly and Salem, then that there was no service at all (this was about 6:45 am).

MBTA.com at 7:30:
Commuter Rail Newburyport/Rockport service experiencing significant delays due to damage to Beverly drawbridge. A bus shuttle is running between Beverly and Salem Stations. This is a significant service impact. Please allow extra time for your commute or seek an alternate route. 12/21/2007 7:21 AM


Also, looks like the later Anderson/Woburn turns either have their equipment trapped on the North Shore, or were scrubbed to provide service up to Salem:
Commuter Rail Lowell Line: trains #353 (7:40am outbound),#354 (8:15am inbound), #355 (7:55am outbound), #356 (8:30am inbound) canceled 12/21/2007 7:19 AM


Those sets would not have been trapped... the 353 is a turn of the earlier Anderson shuttle 352, and the 355 is a turn of a previous Lowell inbound, the 306. But perhaps you are correct in guessing they diverted the sets to provide inbound service from Salem.
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Postby octr202 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:12 am

9:00 AM update on Boston.com:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2007/12/barge_hits_trai.html

Inspectors at the scene are "very confident" the bridge can be locked into position so train service can be restored for the evening commute, [s]aid MBTA spokesman Joe Pesaturo.
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Postby sjd0356 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:39 am

I was told(from an MBCR manager) they were going to "walk" a train through around 10am. If there weren't anymore problems they would do that for the remainder of the day. I was also told there could possibly be busing on Saturday morning to finish the repairs.
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Postby CRail » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:42 am

Commuters are urged to drive to the Wonderland Blue Line station in Revere or to the Anderson commuter rail station in Woburn on the Lowell commuter line. Both stations have plenty of parking, Pesaturo said.

Another alternative would be driving to Central Square in Lynn, parking in a public garage, and taking a bus to the Blue Line or into Boston.

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Postby Ron Newman » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:37 pm

If there are trains 'stuck' north of the bridge, why not run them, and have a bus shuttle between Beverly and Salem?
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Postby sery2831 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:51 pm

It's not that easy to create shuttle trains on the other side. Most crews do not stay on one line, so who is going to run these trains. Or who will run their trips on the other lines? The other thing is fuel. Most of these trains are normally fueled during the day for evening rush hour and wont make it through evening rush hour without seeing BET.

At 12:45p this is still on mbta.com:
Commuter Rail Newburyport/Rockport service experiencing significant delays due to damage to Beverly drawbridge. A bus shuttle is running between Beverly and Salem Stations. This is a significant service impact. Please allow extra time for your commute or seek an alternate route. 12/21/2007 7:21 AM
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Postby AutisticPsycho » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:02 pm

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Postby sery2831 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:28 pm

As of 1:15p the trains have resumed operations. Looks like emergency repairs will be made tomorrow.

mbta.com:

Commuter Rail Newburyport/Rockport has resumed normal service between Beverly and Salem. Repairs related to this morning's bridge problem are ongoing and some residual effect may be experienced. Please allow extra time for your commute. 12/21/2007 5:29 AM


Beginning Saturday, December 22, 2007 at approximately 7:00am and continuing until approximately 5:00pm or the conclusion of repair activity, a diversion of service will take place between Beverly and Salem Stations. Substitute bus service will replace regular train service between Beverly and Salem for the purpose of repairing the Beverly drawbridge. Please allow extra time for your commute. 12/21/2007 1:17 PM
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Postby octr202 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:05 pm

WHDH has a somewhat more detailed report than other places. The video report has more detail than the printed story.

Apparently the barge hit twice, once last night and again this morning, but only inflicted damage this morning.
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Postby MBTA3247 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:49 pm

I sure hope they sack whoever was operating that barge.
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Postby concordgirl » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:18 am

Someone I work with lives in Salem. She said she waited waited a little over an hour for a train yesterday morning. She was told (at first) that there was a train coming in 10 mins but also that she should wait in the bus since it would be warmer in there. I would've taken that as a hint that I might be waiting a little longer than 10 mins ;-) So the train she eventually got on, must have come from BET or something, right?
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Postby CRail » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:22 pm

sery2831 wrote:It's not that easy to create shuttle trains on the other side. Most crews do not stay on one line, so who is going to run these trains. Or who will run their trips on the other lines? The other thing is fuel. Most of these trains are normally fueled during the day for evening rush hour and wont make it through evening rush hour without seeing BET.


You could get a fuel truck at the two outside points and hire 2 spare crews to run 2 trains between the 3 points. That's probably how I'd want to do it if I were running the show. The part that really stings though is the fact that because one 50 foot section of double track is out the system is now down 8 train sets. That right there is enough to get me to start looking for new solutions.

MBTA3247 wrote:I sure hope they sack whoever was operating that barge.


Yes, and then his family has to worry about getting through the holidays with the lost income, all because some idiot crashed his vessel into the bridge the guy was in charge of.

concordgirl wrote:Someone I work with lives in Salem. She said she waited waited a little over an hour for a train yesterday morning. She was told (at first) that there was a train coming in 10 mins but also that she should wait in the bus since it would be warmer in there. I would've taken that as a hint that I might be waiting a little longer than 10 mins Wink So the train she eventually got on, must have come from BET or something, right?


Either that or another line. The trains that layover at BET go to Lowell in the morning, and one goes to Haverhill. I'm not sure what they have in terms of spares that they can send out to other places. But I'm sure there was no such thing as business as usual that morning anyway so I don't know.
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Postby Ron Newman » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:57 pm

I think you misread; nobody said that the bridge operator should be sacked.
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