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NYSW train symbols

Postby ANDY117 » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:28 pm

What do the SU, BH, SY, and UT stand for in a train? Like, a SU-100, or a BH-3, or a SY-X. Does anyone understand any of this mumbo jumbo?
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Re: NYSW train symbols

Postby washingtonsecondary » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:57 pm

ANDY117 wrote:What do the SU, BH, SY, and UT stand for in a train? Like, a SU-100, or a BH-3, or a SY-X. Does anyone understand any of this mumbo jumbo?


SY= Syracuse Branch Local
BH= Binghamton Local
UT= Utica Branch Local

X is an extra, usually the locals go SY-1, 2, 3, 4 some go up to 4 or 5 and anything past that is an extra.

Don't know what SU stands for.
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Postby n01jd1 » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:03 pm

washingtonsecondary wrote:
ANDY117 wrote:What do the SU, BH, SY, and UT stand for in a train? Like, a SU-100, or a BH-3, or a SY-X. Does anyone understand any of this mumbo jumbo?


SY= Syracuse Branch Local
BH= Binghamton Local
UT= Utica Branch Local

X is an extra, usually the locals go SY-1, 2, 3, 4 some go up to 4 or 5 and anything past that is an extra.

Don't know what SU stands for.


I dont know what the SU stands for either but thats what they use for road trains. NYSW uses WS for its southern division locals.
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Postby RSD15 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:23 am

i believe the SU in SU99/100 is simply Susquehanna 99/100 abbreviated.
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Postby cjvrr » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:17 am

The "SU" designation did come from the Susquehanna trains that ran on trackage rights over Conrail. It was a Conrail designation that has stuck around for over 20 years now.
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Postby Lackawanna484 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:20 pm

cjvrr wrote:The "SU" designation did come from the Susquehanna trains that ran on trackage rights over Conrail. It was a Conrail designation that has stuck around for over 20 years now.


The designation outlasted Conrail, in fact.

WS is the prefix for trains originating in Little Ferry, and, I think, in Butler.

Usuals are WS-1 through 4, and WSPX for passenger extra trains. The dispatchers will call a movement by its symbol, or rarely by its engine number (4004, call me on the radio). They use both when they write a train order.


Was WS the telegraph station for the old Little Ferry engine terminal? it sounds like it should be West Shore
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Postby ANDY117 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:59 pm

How often do the 99 1nd 100 run? Every 2 days?
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Re: NYSW train symbols

Postby roc » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:35 pm

Is the grain/feed mill in Chohecton serviced by a local or by one of the SU road freights?
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Postby waldwickrailfan » Mon May 15, 2017 2:43 am

roc wrote:Is the grain/feed mill in Chohecton serviced by a local or by one of the SU road freights?


The SU100 works Cochecton and Narrowsburg on the Tier
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