Amtrak Acela 2150 "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

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Amtrak Acela 2150 "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby Bostontoallpoints » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:00 pm

A high-speed Amtrak train bound for Penn Station broke apart as it was cruising through Maryland on Tuesday, sources told The Post.

A high-speed Amtrak train bound for Penn Station broke apart as it was moving at top speed through Maryland.
The 2150 Acela was traveling from Washington D.C. to the Big Apple when the incident happened at about 11:20 a.m. The train was traveling at about 125 mph, according to the source.

“Someone could have been walking through the train when that happened and fell to their death,” said the source.

A photo shows the connector between two coupled trains broken and separated.

Amtrak officials confirmed the incident, but didn’t immediately have details.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/amtrak-tr ... t-125-mph/

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Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC 2/6/2018

Postby Jeff Smith » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:18 pm

As GoTT would say, it's not Amtrak's week: https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/amtrak-tr ... t-125-mph/

A high-speed Amtrak train bound for Penn Station broke apart as it was cruising through Maryland on Tuesday, sources told The Post.

The 2150 Acela was traveling from Washington D.C. to the Big Apple when the incident happened at about 11:20 a.m. The train was traveling at about 125 mph, according to the source.

“Someone could have been walking through the train when that happened and fell to their death,” said the source.

A photo shows the connector between two coupled trains broken and separated.

Amtrak officials confirmed the incident, but didn’t immediately have details.
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Re: Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC 2/6/2018

Postby Ridgefielder » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:20 pm

Pulled a drawbar?
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby NJRAILNUT » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:26 pm

Holy moly...that can't be good. Thankfully nobody was traversing between cars at the time this occurred.

Talk about bad PR...
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby John_Perkowski » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:33 pm

Amtrak reporting a different time...

https://www.metro.us/news/local-news/ne ... eaks-apart
"Earlier this morning, at approximately 6:40 a.m., Acela Express train 2150 traveling from Washington, D.C., to Boston experienced a mechanical issue when two of the train’s cars separated," Amtrak said in a statement to Metro.
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby Jeff Smith » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:41 pm

Those Avelia Liberty's can't come soon enough....
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby bdawe » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:57 pm

I know that the Acelas are troublesome and all, but is there a good reason why this is apparently a possibility on a high-speed passenger train?
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby Tadman » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:57 pm

It's not the equipment's fault. This is a preventative maintenance/inspection issue. There is no way they let those trains run 150mph every day without inspecting the drawbars and pins with hefty frequency. Someone phoned it in.
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Re: Amtrak Acela 2150 "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby bdawe » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:06 pm

That's what I'm getting at. Why celebrate the coming of the Avelia Liberties if Amtrak is just going to run them into the ground?
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby gokeefe » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:12 pm

Tadman wrote:Someone phoned it in.


Way to soon to tell. Could be some type of undetected defect or unexpected wear pattern. Remember the early years with Acela ...
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Re: Amtrak Acela 2150 "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby FatNoah » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:18 pm

I'm just glad my wife doesn't watch the news much, otherwise next month's 2153-->91 trip from Boston to Lakeland, FL might be in jeopardy.
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Acela Separation

Postby EuroStar » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:03 pm

Amtrak cannot get a break: http://www.wbaltv.com/article/train-cars-separate-on-acela-train-in-havre-de-grace/16639476. If reports are correct the separation of the cars occurred at high speed.

I am guessing maintenance issue. Or worse, metal fatigue that might eventually sideline all trainsets.
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby Tadman » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:21 pm

gokeefe wrote:
Tadman wrote:Someone phoned it in.


Way to soon to tell. Could be some type of undetected defect or unexpected wear pattern. Remember the early years with Acela ...


With all due respect, I give that in my professional opinion a 5% chance of being the case. Not my armchair buff opinion, but as the guy who gives speeches about crane inspections repeatedly every year and is vice president of the Crane Certification Association of America. This is literally the type of issue I get paid to deal with on a day-to-day basis for heavy equipment using the same basic wheels, brakes, rails, etc... of railroads. This recent issue smacks of negligence.

From the picture, the drawbar looks intact with the pin failed or missing. Usually the hardware in a situation like that requires a frequent inspection, IE every time the train goes over the pit, they look at it, tap it with a hammer, perhaps tighten a bolt or examine a cotter pin on a castellated nut. The hardware itself in many cases like that must be from the manufacturer, not the local bolt warehouse.

Let's put all that aside for a minute, as I've made some suppositions. The OSHA general duty clause requires employers to have a workplace free of recognized hazards. You would have to be seriously off your rocker to think that neglecting to inspect the drawbar and pins and other draft gear on a frequent basis would be overlooked with regard to the general duty clause.
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby gokeefe » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:46 pm

The high likelihood of negligence as seen from your professional standpoint is both disappointing and disturbing.

I'm thankful there were no injuries.
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Re: Amtrak Acela "Breaks Apart" on NEC in MD 2/6/2018

Postby Triaxle » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:54 pm

NJRAILNUT wrote:Holy moly...that can't be good. Thankfully nobody was traversing between cars at the time this occurred.

Talk about bad PR...


It does look like there's a pair of bars to grab ahead, perhaps there's another pair behind. You'd have to be stepping over the gap at the exact moment it separated to end up in a Wile E Coyote type disaster, and that assumes it separated suddenly. Of course if you were stepping through at that exact moment and not expecting this problem (who would?) ... that would be a most unpleasant end to your existence.

It seems strange that the train neither broke fully apart or was shoved back together.
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