St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:01 am

I noticed that as well ... Double stacks perhaps?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby MEC407 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:55 pm

Are double stacks really that heavy to require such massive rail? The Plaistow-Portland mainline is 115 LB as you may recall. 132 LB is a common industry standard on many of the busiest North American mainlines. SLR and CN run double stacks on 115 LB or even less. 150 just seems like a bizarrely heavy rail to use. Maybe it was a typo.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:00 pm

MEC407 wrote:Are double stacks really that heavy to require such massive rail? The Plaistow-Portland mainline is 115 LB as you may recall. 132 LB is a common industry standard on many of the busiest North American mainlines. SLR and CN run double stacks on 115 LB or even less. 150 just seems like a bizarrely heavy rail to use. Maybe it was a typo.


I am wondering if it was related to the tight curve and the lateral forces potentially exerted by such heavy loads ... I was similarly surprised but felt that this was related to the wye and anticipated heavy use ...
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:23 pm

MEC407 wrote:Are double stacks really that heavy to require such massive rail? The Plaistow-Portland mainline is 115 LB as you may recall. 132 LB is a common industry standard on many of the busiest North American mainlines. SLR and CN run double stacks on 115 LB or even less. 150 just seems like a bizarrely heavy rail to use. Maybe it was a typo.


Doesn't really matter if it's stacked cubes on a well car or a regular boxcar: if 286K is the weight limit at the axles, then 286K is the weight limit at the axles. I'm pretty sure the B&A, which has a 315K weight class from Selkirk to Beacon Park, doesn't have any rail heavier than the 136 lb. the T routinely uses on a lot of its commuter lines. Has to be some special hyper-localized condition like that hypothesis about curve wear on a wye leg that's driving the request for such superheavyweight rail.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:26 pm

Hello,
Due to a late arrival in Island Pond last night (actually early this morning), this morning's SLQ westbound 393 did not leave Island Pond until 1055:

GP40-2 3035
GP40-3 3803
RM-1 805
5 centerbeam flats
2 covered hoppers
3 NaClO3 hoppers
17 tank cars
13 propane tank cars
5 boxcars
4 hi-cube boxcars

That's 49 cars, including 4 loads and 45 empties.

No intermodal today, but here's a link to a photo of the intermodal units on Wednesday's train:

http://fritz.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4819023

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:49 pm

Well that certainly is an interesting catch ... even more interesting that it was a surprise and to date no one seems to know what was in the containers.

Perhaps a test load for someone?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:15 am

Hello,
This morning's SLQ westbound 393 rolled through Lake at 0810 with the following:

GP40-3 3804
RM-1 804
QG GP40 3105
GP40 3004
18 centerbeam flats
1 bathtub gondola (TVGX 1312)
18 propane tanks
6 tank cars
1 NaClO3 hopper
1 covered hopper
5 boxcars
3 hi-cube boxcars

That's 53 cars total, including 4 loads and 49 empties.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby NHV 669 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:20 pm

Doesn't seem like they lost any days due to this week's massive flooding... I know one of the roads into Bethel, ME was completely shut down as of Monday/Tuesday.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Mikejf » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Cancelled Monday night I believe..
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:21 am

Hello,
Today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0817 with the following:

GP40-2 3047
GP40-3 3804
RM-1 804
8 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
5 boxcars
9 tank cars
19 propane cars

That's 42 cars, including 7 loads and 35 empties.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:41 am

Hello,
In wind-driven snow, today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0824 with the following:

QG GP40 3102
GP40-2 3007
GP40-2 3004
8 centerbeam flats
1 covered hopper
2 NaClO3 hoppers
11 salt hoppers
8 tank cars
36 propane cars
3 boxcars
11 hi-cube boxcars

That's 80 cars total! including 10 loads and 70 empties.

Here's a link to a photo of today's train:

http://fritz.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4840745

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:49 pm

Salt hoppers? Is that new traffic?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:37 pm

gokeefe,
The salt traffic is on-again off-again, as it depends on who wins the State of New Hampshire salt bids. Salt is unloading in West Milan for northern New Hampshire (Coos County).
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:22 pm

Hello,
Despite the blustery cold wind this morning, my daughters and I headed to Island Pond to see the SLQ westbound 393 depart at 0813 with the following:

GP40-2 3008
RM-1 805
GP40-3 3803
6 centerbeam flats
1 BNSF gondola
11 salt hoppers
12 covered hoppers
1 boxcar
2 hi-cube boxcars
4 tank cars
14 propane cars

That's 51 cars total, including 8 loads and 43 empties.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:11 pm

Salt westbound two days in a row. That's very interesting. Thanks for the report.
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