Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

[KevinSun242]

406 died and 408 had to tie on. There were more than 3 cars on each set.

They also cancelled 408 (which is my normal train) for whatever reason so the entire train was just devoid of passengers.

[MBTA3247]

Pretty sure I have seen 3 or 4 1600 series on a 7 car set recently. Only, pretty sure a few of them had their controls deactivated.


Also, recently I saw a set with 4 300 series. Is it just me, or do you not normally see to many 300s on the North Side.

Also, did any 1300s ever exist?

The 1300s were Pullman-built control cars. They were rebuilt into blind cars 245-258.

[jaymac]

The 08-11-2017 402 had 3 1600s, a bi, another flat, and the 1033. There was a sery2831 post of mebbe a coupla years ago about the number of 1600s that had been deactivated as control cars.

[BandA]

Pretty sure I have seen 3 or 4 1600 series on a 7 car set recently. Only, pretty sure a few of them had their controls deactivated.


Also, recently I saw a set with 4 300 series. Is it just me, or do you not normally see to many 300s on the North Side.

Also, did any 1300s ever exist?

The 1300s were Pullman-built control cars. They were rebuilt into blind cars 245-258.

Aren't control cars more valuable / in demand than plain coaches? Maybe the controls were worn out/unreliable or obsolete.

[BigUglyCat]

One drawback: by rule, control trailer coaches have to adhere to the same inspection requirements as locomotives. Too many CTC's and you wind up overspending time and money.

[RenegadeMonster]

speaking of control trailers. Are the orange work crew cabooses control cars/trailers?

[MBTA3247]

No. If a caboose is leading a train, there has to be a crew member on the platform in radio contact with the engineer in the locomotive.

[BandA]

When they remove the control features, do they remove everything or just disable it with the ability to restore the features later?

[KevinSun242]

1818 (the cab for the passenger count train) has migrated south again sometime in the past 48 hours. Saw it on service on Newbury/Rockport on Monday, now it's on Framingham.

[RenegadeMonster]

1818 (the cab for the passenger count train) has migrated south again sometime in the past 48 hours. Saw it on service on Newbury/Rockport on Monday, now it's on Framingham.

Might have been sooner than that. Most if not all of last week the passenger count train had a control cab of the 16xx series.

Would they have installed a count camera in the 16xx? Or would they have that car blocked off when counting?

[deathtopumpkins]

Might have been sooner than that. Most if not all of last week the passenger count train had a control cab of the 16xx series.

From the OL platform at Sullivan just yesterday I saw the set, and it was all bilevels, no 16xx cab.

[KevinSun242]

Might have been sooner than that. Most if not all of last week the passenger count train had a control cab of the 16xx series.

From the OL platform at Sullivan just yesterday I saw the set, and it was all bilevels, no 16xx cab.

I know last week 1818 had been sitting in the line of coaches at BET too.

[RenegadeMonster]

1821-777-803-623-1070

3 double deckers and not the passenger count train.

[Trinnau]

Passenger count train went south, now plying the Worcester Line.

[RenegadeMonster]

Saw car 500 is running MassDOT logos. Also noticed a lot more locomotives are have a round MassDOT sticker on the front?

Is MassDOT buying MBTA equipment?