Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby rethcir » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:29 pm

It sounds like a clean break will pay dividends. It's certainly fair to say that WSK took advantage of the state.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby Diverging Route » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:20 pm

Federal approval was just granted. On again.

Story from the Boston Globe.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby BigUglyCat » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:42 pm

The Globe blocked me, so I went to the Herald:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_ ... _extension
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:29 pm

BigUglyCat wrote:The Globe blocked me, so I went to the Herald:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_ ... _extension


The Globe's browser cookie sets that "5 free articles per month" policy.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby jonnhrr » Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:53 pm

Boston Magazine seems to have essentially the same article and does not seem to have a paywall.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2017/04/04/feds-green-line-extension-approval/
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby BigUglyCat » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:00 pm

Further, deponent sayeth not. :(
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby typesix » Wed May 17, 2017 12:38 pm

This was only posted on Boston Metro about the T hiring a consultant:

http://www.metro.us/news/local-news/boston/green-line-extension-mbta-hires-consultancy
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby RenegadeMonster » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:05 pm

New press release up on the MBTAs site: http://www.mbta.com/about_the_mbta/news ... nth=&year=

FED $$$ BEGIN TO FLOW INTO MASS. FOR GREEN LINE EXTENSION

STATE HOUSE, BOSTON, JULY 18, 2017.....The federal government last week made its first payment towards the Green Line Extension project, a transportation initiative that over the years has been the source of headaches associated with delays and cost overruns.

The wire transfer of $1.7 million from the Federal Transit Administration came through Friday morning and marks the first installment of federal money towards a project the state has already spent $536 million on, project manager John Dalton said.

Like many of the state's biggest transportation projects -- South Coast Rail and South Station expansion, for instance -- the rail line extension has been in the discussion phase for years but has yet to truly launch.

"They've communicated their support for the project verbally, they have concurred with our cost estimate and schedule estimate," Dalton told the Department of Transportation board Monday. "But this is their first financial contribution on the project, so it's a big day and a further demonstration that we are definitely moving forward with a full head of steam."

The FTA last month approved the Green Line Extension's grant application request for $34.5 million in certain federal funds, and similar grant requests are expected as the extension of trolley service through Somerville and into Medford advances.

Dalton also told the board Monday that the project schedule is going to be moved up slightly to maximize the work that can be done during the 2018 construction season, though the completion date will not change.

Dalton said he expects to give the design-build team the go-ahead, or notice to proceed, 61 days earlier than anticipated, on Dec. 11, 2017. The project completion date is still pegged at Dec. 10, 2021, Dalton said.

Transportation officials put the brakes on the expansion of trolley service into Somerville and Medford after cost estimates ballooned 50 percent in 2015 to as much as $3 billion. Last year, MassDOT okayed a $2.289 billion version of the project. Somerville and Cambridge agreed to pitch in a combined $75 million.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby Arlington » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:15 am

It looks to me like they've erected a tent and bus shelters on the "new Lechmere" site or maybe slightly beyond (into future North Point space)

Is this going to be the temporary bustituion of the E and terminus of the 69/80/87/88? And for how long?

I guess the temporary site could be clear of both the future site and the existing site, and therefore able to facilitate both New Lechmere's construction and turning Old Lechmere over to developers. Is that the plan?
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby rethcir » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:42 pm

I don’t think there’s a notice to proceed yet, so aside from some of the early track work there shouldn’t be any works or station demo going on.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby deathtopumpkins » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:06 am

That is correct, NTP is anticipated for December 11.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby Arlington » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:14 am

rethcir wrote:I don’t think there’s a notice to proceed yet, so aside from some of the early track work there shouldn’t be any works or station demo going on.

A temporary bus tent/shelter on NorthPoint property might be part of the Lechmere parcel swap, and not technically part of the GLX itself, and so able to start now.

Come to think of it, in order to start work on the GLX, the T *must* vacate Old Lechmere (if the original deals still applies) and move to a temporary 69/80/87/88 + GL Bustitution facility.

Recall that Pan Am/Northpoint & the T did a parcel-swap deal under which the T got the land for the New Lechmere station and the ROW out to Yard 8 (and a bunch of CR stuff too, IIRC) in exchange for giving the developer the to-be-vacated Old Lechmere site. It was always something of a shaft to E-Line riders in the name of the Greater Good, since the deal seemed to necessitate closing Old Lechmere (and letting the developer start demolition) before the T got access to the New Lechmere site to even *begin* construction. The land swap deal was always poised to trigger a long shutdown of the E line.

So if the T wants to actually start GLX work on the New Lechmere site, the deal was that they had to close Old Lechmere. My guess is that this bus tent is what allows Old Lechmere to close, the developer to take possession, and the T to take possession of the New Lechmere site. And they need possession *before* they can start GLX construction.

And then the GL will run Bustituted for the entire construction phase :-( because the land swap necessitated it (not because construction did)

Though construction was going to necessitate closing the steel viaduct (and bustitution) so that it can be torn down and replaced with a new concrete one capable of handling the load of 4-car trains. (The land swap probably "caused" a year of additional GL shutdown beyond what construction would have required).

I'm also assuming that the Bustitution will be "the usual" suffering: Closure of both Science Park and Lechmere, with the GL shuttle operating from North Station.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby rethcir » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:24 pm

I can’t wait for the next big picture of politicians with shovels in their hands on Dec 11. Curtatone probably has a pretty bad back from all that photo-shoveling.

In truth however, that will be the most significant date in the history of the GLX assuming there isn’t some holdup.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby jonnhrr » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:39 pm

Can North Station handle turning the E as well as the lines that turn there now? Or will something have to be turned at GC. Not having a loop at NS makes it something of a bottleneck.
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Re: Green Line Expansion Beyond Lechmere

Postby bostontrainguy » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:09 pm

No, it has problems handling things now. It's pretty much two trains maximum at a time and that occurs often. Many times trains are sent to Lechmere because there isn't enough room.

It isn't the most fluid interchange and often misbehaves.
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