Remembering the 01400s

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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:01 pm

Excellent John,
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby jonnhrr » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:41 pm

Wow. Those interior shots bring back memories of riding them to school every day.

Thanks, John.
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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby CRail » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:19 pm

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:They can't move on their own power because propulsion is shot, but they are fully capable of moving. It just has to be as dead-tow trailers.


Boy, you love poo-pooing equipment for seemingly no reason! These were permanently removed from work service when their universally utilized air compressors were needed for something else and were thenceforth unusable. After that, the third rail shoes and other stuff was stripped off of them probably for safety reasons (taking neglected equipment off the power grid is probably a good idea especially for 600v circuitry!). They can't move under their own power because they were deliberately disabled, it's got nothing to do with the propulsion being "shot," as I'm sure they'd work fine if you put power to them and they'd stop fine if their source of air were put back.
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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:50 pm

CRail wrote:
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:They can't move on their own power because propulsion is shot, but they are fully capable of moving. It just has to be as dead-tow trailers.


Boy, you love poo-pooing equipment for seemingly no reason! These were permanently removed from work service when their universally utilized air compressors were needed for something else and were thenceforth unusable. After that, the third rail shoes and other stuff was stripped off of them probably for safety reasons (taking neglected equipment off the power grid is probably a good idea especially for 600v circuitry!). They can't move under their own power because they were deliberately disabled, it's got nothing to do with the propulsion being "shot," as I'm sure they'd work fine if you put power to them and they'd stop fine if their source of air were put back.


Enough with the personal attacks, please. If you have something you want to say to me, take it to PM's instead of shooting your way guns-blazing into a second locked thread of the week.
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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby sery2831 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:14 pm

Criticism or differences of opinion is not a personal attack. If you feel that was it should taken to a PM instead of a post with no value to the conversation. Any further off topic conversation will be removed.
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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby Disney Guy » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:22 am

But these cars were bought before the line became the Red Line. Anyone know what the original maps looked like? Have any of you seen them?

As far as I remember, prior to the spider map, there were no system maps in cars or stations. Rapid transit cars had listings of the stations on just their own routes, usually as painted or engraved metal plaques at the sides of the doors.

There was a paper map using just red, blue, and black. "Rapid transit" lines were blue. "Surface" lines (bus, etc.) were red. The Riverside line was blue. The Mattapan high speed line was red. The other light rails were red outside the subway. Where several routes shared the same street, only one red line was shown. On the back was a listing of all of the routes naming the streets they ran on but not mentioning frequency of service.
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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby jonnhrr » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:47 pm

At one time there were neat pictorial maps that showed all the rapid transit lines including the Tremont St. /Bolyston St subway with elevated sections and subway portals depicted, along with some major points of interest such as Boston Garden, Fenway Park, etc.. Unfortunately I don't know of any online copies else I would post it. The 0600/0700 cars that preceded the 01400's on the Cambridge Dorchester line has these in each car, printed on translucent glass. The old East Boston cars might have had them too, I don't remember.

The maps were old enough that hey still showed the portals for the City Point and Egleston via Tremont car lines, and did not show the Riverside line.

Update: I did find a URL of the map I am talking about:

http://transitmaps.tumblr.com/post/13499129231/boston-mta-1940s

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Re: Remembering the 01400s

Postby BandA » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:28 am

Map shows (BU) University Field, 1953. Does not show Science Park stop which opened 1956. And doesn't show any of the urban-renewal destruction that began soon after...
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