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Providence line owner ship

Postby kitn1mcc » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:32 pm

Over on Radio Reference there has been some discussion about PTC. and MBTA dragging there heals. some one said that Amtrak runs on MBTA tracks from what i understand its Amtrak's RR from New Haven to Boston. this piece of info some one referenced https://www.mbta.com/uploadedfiles/Busi ... ummary.pdf


any info would be helpful
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby deathtopumpkins » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:12 pm

MassDOT owns from the state line to Boston, and contracts with Amtrak for maintenance.
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:19 pm

MBTA owns the ROW from state line to Boston and obviously does everything related to the stations Amtrak doesn't share. But Amtrak is the dispatcher and track maintainer for the whole line, and each party's future improvements bucket list is jointly co-signed on the NEC Improvements Master Plan.

The two parties are generally sympatico with each other's aims, but technically Amtrak is the one in day-to-day control of it. Think of the T's role on the Massachusetts NEC as more "Chairman of the Board" and Amtrak's the "CEO"...the T's intimately involved in approving every executive decision, but Amtrak's the one making the hands-on calls.


On the greater-NEC route network they have ownership and control New Rochelle to D.C., New Haven to the MA state, Keystone Corridor, Empire Connection, and Springfield Line. They have no ownership but do have control for the MA NEC and Hudson Line from Poughkeepsie to Albany. They have neither ownership nor control on MNRR New Haven Line, MNRR Hudson Line south of Poughkeepsie, and south of the D.C. Union tunnel portal where the Virginia NE Regionals spit out onto CSX track the rest of the way.
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby YamaOfParadise » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:39 pm

Small note: In MA, despite not owning the RoW, Amtrak does own the overhead catenary system.
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby kitn1mcc » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:29 pm

ah ok now i understand. unlike here in CT NY to NH is owned by the state but operated by MNR. now does amtrak trains have priority over commuters
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby edbear » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:47 pm

Amtrak dispatches the Providence route and all of its branches. Commuter trains are probably supposed to have priority because almost all of their users are on close time constraints.
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:08 pm

That is not true at all... Amtrak dispatchers only handle South Station to PVD and points west of there. The commuter branch's are handled by Keolis Dispatchers. On the Mainline, Amtrak gets priority because, 1. they travel much much faster than our trains and 2. they only make 3 stops between PVD and Boston. Very very very rarely will you see an Amtrak go behind one of our slow locals...PVD and Attleboro are the usual holding spots for Eastward trains and Readville and Attleboro are the usual holding spots for Westward trains....unless the AMTK dispatchers have time and open track, they will shotgun trains down the Mainline to overtake
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Re: Providence line owner ship

Postby edbear » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:19 pm

I only meant the portion of the branch until they're off the corridor; Franklin, Needham, Stoughton.
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