Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

Moderators: CRail, sery2831

Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby johnpbarlow » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:12 am

Given only a short walk down a sidewalk is required to go between T station and North Stn lobby (with no street crossing needed, contrary to press release), I don't see this as a huge improvement for T customers. Does the last line of the release
....The overall development project includes 210,000 square feet of retail, 700,000 square feet of office space, 440 residential units and a 260-room hotel...
mean that the parking lot between Causeway St and North Stn (where the T headhouse currently stands) is going to be re-purposed as a building?

http://www.mbta.com/about_the_mbta/news_events/?id=6442455486&month=&year=
johnpbarlow
 
Posts: 1620
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:50 pm

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby The EGE » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:25 am

Currently, it requires a short walk outside, but no street crossing. The elevator is in the headhouse closest to North Station.

During the closure, passengers will have to cross Causeway Street (never a fun task) and use the headhouse just south of Causeway. Handicapped passengers will have to travel another block to the south to the third headhouse which has an elevator. The Boston Garden development is being built on the old Garden site.

After 2019, there will be a direct passage, accessible to all, from the subway station to the commuter rail station. There will also be a new entrance to the commuter rail station from Causeway Street opposite Canal Street. Lots of retail space, more space for commuters, and much nicer than the current entrance.

The end result will be good, but the three-year closure (and major impact for handicapped riders) is a big deal.
"Give me an unobstructed right-of-way and I'll show them how to move the earth!"
User avatar
The EGE
 
Posts: 2452
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:16 pm
Location: Waiting for the C Branch

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby sery2831 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:44 pm

There is an elevator at the Causeway St end of the of the Superstation. This project will temporarily remove the third elevator to the surface.
Moderator: MBTA Rail Operations
User avatar
sery2831
 
Posts: 5127
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:15 pm
Location: Manchester, NH

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby CRail » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:44 am

It irritates me that the new section of the line east (track direction) of North Station has had several major closures since its construction in 2004, and is due for more. It's a disgrace that part of a 10 year old station will be demolished and the causeway st corridor will be closed for 3 years! Especially when they're talking about shutting down that portion of the line AGAIN for over a year, drastically increasing foot traffic into and out of that station. I wish we could bring back the directors of the Boston Transit Commission and General Bancroft and his crew. They seemed to have their stuff together.
Moderator: Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority
Avatar:3679A (since wrecked)/3623B (now in service as 3636B).
User avatar
CRail
 
Posts: 2122
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 8:27 am
Location: Eastie

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby The EGE » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:23 am

This headhouse was designed for the beginning to be replaced - it was not intended to be a permanent fixture, just a temporary one until there was development on the Boston Garden site. The three-year closure is utterly ridiculous, but the waste is not. All that's really getting removed is a metal shack, and an escalator and elevator that can be resold or used elsewhere.
"Give me an unobstructed right-of-way and I'll show them how to move the earth!"
User avatar
The EGE
 
Posts: 2452
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:16 pm
Location: Waiting for the C Branch

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby jonnhrr » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:23 pm

It takes twice as long to replace a headhouse than it did to convert the entire Riverside Line to rapid transit ???

Jon
Avatar Photo - P&W local from Gardner to Worcester at Morgan Rd., Hubbardston
User avatar
jonnhrr
 
Posts: 1036
Joined: Sun May 30, 2004 5:58 pm
Location: Sabattus ME USA

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby Rbts Stn » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:02 pm

First Bruins game after they closed that side:

Image


From: http://www.universalhub.com/2016/its-ba ... ruins-lost
User avatar
Rbts Stn
 
Posts: 587
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:09 pm
Location: waiting for an "A" train to Watertown

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby deathtopumpkins » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:21 am

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly didn't see that coming!

/sarcasm
Call me Connor or DTP

Railfan & Roadgeek from the North Shore of Mass.
deathtopumpkins
 
Posts: 945
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:56 am
Location: Somerville, MA

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby eustis22 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:41 am

I did.

Instead of a corridor wide enough for a dozen people PLUS two feeder stairways they now have two (2) doors wide enough for 2 people with the rest of the crowd in the street PLUS 6-8 transit cops holding traffic on causeway street back during the morning and evening rush hours. When a train arrives it's chaos out there and the basketball and hockey seasons aren't even half over.

Bring on the Ice Capades!
eustis22
 
Posts: 270
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:23 am

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby Diverging Route » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:14 am

eustis22 wrote:I did.

Instead of a corridor wide enough for a dozen people PLUS two feeder stairways they now have two (2) doors wide enough for 2 people with the rest of the crowd in the street PLUS 6-8 transit cops holding traffic on causeway street back during the morning and evening rush hours. When a train arrives it's chaos out there and the basketball and hockey seasons aren't even half over.

Bring on the Ice Capades!


Just sharing the pain we've experienced for years at the tunnel from South Station to/from the Red Line. A gauntlet two-people wide. They must have had the same designers!
User avatar
Diverging Route
 
Posts: 1560
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:35 pm

Re: Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Postby StefanW » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:40 pm

I've been through the new walkway / route between the CR and Subway platforms 8 times this week (4 days each way) and I don't think it adds more than about 2 or 3 minutes. However, I'm usually on the last peak-period train both AM and PM so the crush of the peak middle is probably adding considerably more extra time.

I will give kudos to the T & Keolis staff for being out in force to direct people. Also the Transit Police have had at least two officers handling traffic & pedestrian crossings. I only hope the property developer is paying for the overtime.
User avatar
StefanW
 
Posts: 484
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:27 pm
Location: Lynn, MA / MP 11.53


Return to Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA)

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests