2016 Fare Increase discussion

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2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby Rbts Stn » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:59 am

Boston.com has an article from yesterday discussing a possible 10% increase in fares next year, starting in July. Would be first increase in 2 years.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... story.html

Of course they usually propose something outrageous (higher than this) and settle on something that seems more reasonable.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby RRCOMM » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:08 pm

The game here is rigged so these guys earn 2 to 3 times as much as Commuter Rail employees (with better pensions and benefits).
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby theseaandalifesaver » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:32 pm

How many times in the last ten years has the fair been increased? It almost seems to be a yearly/bi-yearly thing.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby dbperry » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:22 pm

Excellent counterpoint to the fare increase (even though it was written almost 2 months ago):

http://commonwealthmagazine.org/politic ... -improves/
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby BandA » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:58 am

After the 2016 increase, the T should implement small annual increases rather than large bi-annual (or longer) increases. Much less of a shock. That's how private companies & even the post office do price increases.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby octr202 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:54 am

Well, that's what the legislation was intended to address by capping it to 5% every two years. Now we're just finding creative ways around that, rather than addressing the elephants (plural) in the room.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby Type 7 3684 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:22 pm

Funny how that's the error signage. I've seen it plenty of times when I've used the Red Line, though.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby Rockingham Racer » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:10 pm

I'm sorry; but the whole system is becoming an embarrassment to the city.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby BandA » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:32 am

A 2.5% annual increase is better than a 5% biennial increase.

If fare increases are limited to 2.5%/year, then logically union wage + benefit package costs should have the same cap, and average wages + benefits for non-union employees also the same cap. Like that's gonna happen.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby CRail » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:07 am

RRCOMM wrote:The game here is rigged so these guys earn 2 to 3 times as much as Commuter Rail employees (with better pensions and benefits).

Have any sources to site? I have it on good authority that this isn't remotely true.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby Diverging Route » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:58 pm

Click here and scroll down to MBTA Fare Options FY17 and FY 2017 Proposed Fare Changes.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby BandA » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:04 pm

Inner Express Bus riders take it on the chin. Waltham, Newtonville, West Newton, etc still have CR fares that are disproportionate.
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Re: 2016 Fare Increase discussion

Postby rethcir » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:50 pm

BandA wrote:Inner Express Bus riders take it on the chin. Waltham, Newtonville, West Newton, etc still have CR fares that are disproportionate.


Speaking as an inner exp pass holder.. It's still cheaper than parking downtown. But it's hard to see how these route could be not profitable for the T, given how they are packed day in and day out. Maybe it's because the senior drivers take this assignment. As long as Baker does not succeed in his quest to privatize these routes I'll be happy.

Sorry to dwell on rubber tired transit.

I would love to see fares pegged to inflation, but I imagine that would be politically impossible.
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