Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby Bramdeisroberts » Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:02 pm

And of course, being the T, they're only fitting them to 40 married pairs out of a fleet of hundreds. So come wintertime, they'll have Chicago-style miniplows, but half of them will be OOS and the rest will be sandwiched in the middle or at the trailing ends of consists, leaving the cars ahead of them to clear the snow with their traction motors.

This'll be worth bragging over only when the plows are fitted fleetwide, the way every other system that uses miniplows does it.
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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby The EGE » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:14 pm

This is a trial set, made by Everett shops. It means they can send specifically those cars out to do all-night clearing, which is a big plus. If the plows are successful, then more will be fabricated by outside shops.
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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby Arlington » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:47 pm

The EGE wrote:This is a trial set, made by Everett shops. It means they can send specifically those cars out to do all-night clearing, which is a big plus. If the plows are successful, then more will be fabricated by outside shops.

Sounds like the right way to innovate. Launch and learn. And the right way to run late/early (infrequent) service on snowy days. For now, it'd be potentially very wasteful to roll out an untested design, yet this is sufficient to have a test that can also be enough to get us through a tough winter.
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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby dieciduej » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:16 pm

The Orange Line trains tried mini-plow blades once before. It was in the pre-ATO days, before the ATO signal sensor beam was attached to the lead trucks.

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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:45 pm

I agree with the above posts. Seems pretty smart.

Its good to hear the are thinking about different strategies.
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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby MaineCoonCat » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:54 pm

Here's an idea the Image could use! :P

trolleybus plow.jpg


Chicago Surface Lines.

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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby Type7trolley » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:00 am

Now the passengers only have to climb over the snowbank their b̶u̶s̶ trackless trolley just created! :-)
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Re: Winter 2015 and Impact on MBTA

Postby MaineCoonCat » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:58 am

There is precedent for the "lead sled"..

lead sled rochester elec.jpg



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