RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

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RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

Postby NH2060 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:14 am

The proposal was filed this week by Rep. John Lombardi (fair use quote below):
In a proposal filed this week, Lombardi said he’s looking to update existing laws to create “parity” with MBTA commuter passes, since many Rhode Island residents travel in from Providence, along the Commuter Rail, to get into Boston for work. Riders from the area often use buses, and, subsequently, separate passes, to board vehicles that take them to one of three Commuter Rail stops.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog ... link-mbta/
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Re: RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

Postby deathtopumpkins » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:24 am

So basically RIPTA wants to join Charlie, like the other RTAs in Mass did. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Re: RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:10 pm

They've been signaling that willingness for awhile now. Charlie really is becoming the transit equivalent of EZ-Pass for region-wide portability, at least on the bus side. If CT Transit starts evaluating it then it really reaches a whole other level. Those Hartford Line bus transfers in Springfield will all be on Charlie; that's their impetus for considering its upside on the buses that hit every CT commuter rail stop, because so many of their own residents will need and use a Charlie card out of Springfield. Even if CDOT's own Metro North-derived commuter rail tix system doesn't end up compatible, that's still more than enough upside to justify joining the universal bus pass party.

Really, the only thing holding it back is the T refusing to deploy Charlie on commuter rail. And being agonizingly slow and lackadaisical at rolling it out to all manner of station parking. That's the missing link tying all these RTA's together, including out-of-state with RIPTA and RIDOT intrastate CR.
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Re: RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

Postby boblothrope » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:56 am

NH2060 wrote:The proposal was filed this week by Rep. John Lombardi (fair use quote below):
In a proposal filed this week, Lombardi said he’s looking to update existing laws to create “parity” with MBTA commuter passes, since many Rhode Island residents travel in from Providence, along the Commuter Rail, to get into Boston for work. Riders from the area often use buses, and, subsequently, separate passes, to board vehicles that take them to one of three Commuter Rail stops.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog ... link-mbta/


There are two independent issues:
1) Storing both agencies' passes on the same fare medium
or, 2) Providing a RIPTA bus pass for "free" in the price of an MBTA commuter rail pass (like already happens for the T subway and buses)

They could provide one or the other of these, or both. The magazine article, and the bill in the RI legislature, are vague and don't make it entirely clear which they are talking about. I'm pretty sure the primary goal is #2, and that they'd implement it using #1.

The existing CharlieCard acceptance on regional (non-MBTA) bus systems only accomplishes #1.
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Re: RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

Postby boblothrope » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:02 pm

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:If CT Transit starts evaluating it then it really reaches a whole other level. Those Hartford Line bus transfers in Springfield will all be on Charlie; that's their impetus for considering its upside on the buses that hit every CT commuter rail stop, because so many of their own residents will need and use a Charlie card out of Springfield.


Unless things have changed recently, the PVTA (Springfield) does not accept CharlieCards.
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Re: RIPTA Bus Passes On The Commuter Rail(?)

Postby diburning » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:25 pm

No, but it looks like they're trying to at least get a system where they are compatible

http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/regionalitsarchitecture/western/html/inv/el751.htm

As for the RIPTA passes, wouldn't it be as simple as printing a CR pass on the RIPTA pass, since conductors only do a visual inspection anyway, and then have the state of RI just reimburse the MBTA for every one of such passes issued as part of their subsidy for RI service? To make sure people only use those passes in RI, they could make them a different color, and/or put "VALID WITHIN RHODE ISLAND ONLY" in large font.
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