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Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby Sengab » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:19 pm

Hello,
I am considering a trip to the Boston area to photograph some of remaining MBTA F40PH* (any series) before they are completely replaced with the HSP-46s. I am interested in any information that would would give the best chance to spot them. Is there any information as to how many re still active? If there is still a a chance to photograph them what Lines would yield the best opportunity to spot them? I did see 4 more HSP-46 units heading eastbound on Nov 6th (Chesterton, IN Railcam) a few days back. I am sure those new additions will lower chances. Any information or suggestions would be much appreciated.

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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby chrisf » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:26 pm

Sengab wrote:Hello,
I am considering a trip to the Boston area to photograph some of remaining MBTA F40PH* (any series) before they are completely replaced with the HSP-46s. I am interested in any information that would would give the best chance to spot them. Is there any information as to how many re still active? If there is still a a chance to photograph them what Lines would yield the best opportunity to spot them? I did see 4 more HSP-46 units heading eastbound on Nov 6th (Chesterton, IN Railcam) a few days back. I am sure those new additions will lower chances. Any information or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Senga

You have plenty of time as there are only a handful of HSP46s in service. It's been slow going as they've had some major issues with traction motors and/or bearings.
viewtopic.php?f=65&t=51137 will have updates on service status, as will this site: http://www.transithistory.org/roster/
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:35 pm

I thought the HSP46's were replacing the GP40MC's?
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby Gerry6309 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:41 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:I thought the HSP46's were replacing the GP40MC's?

GP-40 MCs and screamers (Oldest F-40PHs)
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby MBTA3247 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:44 pm

The HSP-46s are replacing both the screamers (1000-1017) and most of the GP40MCs. The screamers are now based entirely on the lines out of North Station, so that's where you'll be wanting to focus your efforts. The rebuilds (1025-1075) will be sticking around for some years to come, so there's no need to rush to get photos of them.
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby Slushbucket » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:48 pm

If you want pictures of "straight" F40PHs then you should take pictures at North Station and by the North side lines (Haverhill, Lowell, Fitchburg, and Newburyport/Rockport lines). F40PHs can only be found on North side trains because they lack the ACSES equipment needed to run on the Northeast Corridor. "Stretch" F40s (F40PH-2C and F40PHM-2C) can be found working both North and South side. The South side usually has more of them, however, there are enough Stretches sprinkled among the North side fleet that you'll have plenty of chances to snag one.
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:58 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:I thought the HSP46's were replacing the GP40MC's?


Only half. 40 HSP-46's doesn't cover the loss of 18 Screamers + 2 previous wreck/scrap losses + 25 Geeps, and still have room for fleet increases. There'll be at least 10-12 of them malingering on until 2020. That's why they opted to sell those 2 F40PH-2C's from the dead line to MassDOT rather than attempt the costly repairs they needed. As long as the numbers from Day 1 didn't wash for doing full Geep purging they're going to wave any additional croaked (or unanticipated croaks in the next 18 months) F40's to the front of the dead line before squaring the final math on how many GP40MC's have to stay.
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby drvmusic » Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:05 pm

I've seen Screamer 1003 on the Lowell run this week a couple of times.
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby Sengab » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:55 pm

Thank you for the great information. I am both relived and encouraged that I still have time to get the MBTA F40PH/F40PH-2C. I am not too picky about the F40 series whether its straight F40 or the stretch. If I did have my choice if go with the longer but I will definitely try to get both. Getting the GP40MC as well would be nice too. I will be coming from SE NY area so I'll probably start South of Boston and work my way North.

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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:07 pm

Sengab wrote:Thank you for the great information. I am both relived and encouraged that I still have time to get the MBTA F40PH/F40PH-2C. I am not too picky about the F40 series whether its straight F40 or the stretch. If I did have my choice if go with the longer but I will definitely try to get both. Getting the GP40MC as well would be nice too. I will be coming from SE NY area so I'll probably start South of Boston and work my way North.

Thanks again,
Senga


It's only the original 1978-80 order of F40PH's (units #1000-1015 and 1017) that are on phase-out. The whole fleet of 23 F40PH-2C's (ordered 1987-88) and 12 F40PHM-2C's (ordered 1991-93) are sticking around at least another 8 years.
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby drvmusic » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:47 pm

Saw 1007 at Anderson last Friday.
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Re: Remaining MBTA F40PH fleet question

Postby 8th Notch » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:59 pm

Don't think we need to turn this into a sightings thread, there are enough of them around still that run on a constant basis on all north side lines.
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