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ngotwalt wrote:I'm sorry, but an order for 32 locomotives does not make me fear for the P42s impending doom. Yes there is an option for 225 more, and when that option gets executed, then we can start talking about the last Genesis runs, until then, this is an order for corridor locomotives to go with the new bilevels.
Cheers,
Nick
Fan Railer wrote:This is old news and was being discussed elsewhere in this forum.
AMTK822401 wrote:Fan Railer wrote:This is old news and was being discussed elsewhere in this forum.
Charger=/= ACS 64. Besides, there is no topic on it on the first page
AMTK822401 wrote:Fan Railer wrote:This is old news and was being discussed elsewhere in this forum.
Charger=/= ACS 64. Besides, there is no topic on it on the first page
Fan Railer wrote:AMTK822401 wrote:Fan Railer wrote:This is old news and was being discussed elsewhere in this forum.
Charger=/= ACS 64. Besides, there is no topic on it on the first page
as mtu stated... you should read into threads before jumping to conclusions.
I think Siemens inexpereince with the realties of American diesel locomotives will make these units fail. What it does mean, however, is Amtrak is actively looking for a replacement for the good ol' Gennies
ngotwalt wrote:I think Siemens inexpereince with the realties of American diesel locomotives will make these units fail. What it does mean, however, is Amtrak is actively looking for a replacement for the good ol' Gennies
Don't sell Siemens short. They're probably the global leader in railway motive power. We think highly of GE and EMD, but they only build diesel locomotives, Siemens does a whole lot more, and I would not under estimate the Germans in anyway.
Cheers,
Nick
gokeefe wrote:I think it is interesting to observe a foreign company inching in on territory that has almost always been a lock for American products. First they made their move with the ACS-64. No big deal there, electric traction has been imported for a long time now especially since the less than stellar performance of the E60s. Easy enough for executives at EMD and to a lesser extent at GE to write off as "insignificant", "meaningless" or "trivial".
Not so "trivial" would be the entry of a third major diesel-electric option into the American motive power market. While the Siemens product is likely a "passenger-first" design I doubt that anything powered by Caterpillar would have much difficulty being repurposed for freight. By securing the Amtrak contract Siemens provided startup work for their California plant, quietly gained a foothold in North America (which has one of the largest motive power markets in the world) and now is slowly ramping up to produce a diesel-electric option. I hope the suits in the Executive Suites in La Grange and the Heller Building in Chicago (GE Transportation) are taking this threat to their market dominance seriously.If they don't it could cost them their jobs.
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