Major flaws in this "vision". I realize it's merely a 2024 timeline, but they're still thinking small and irrationally. First of all, the BCEC shuttle is outrageous, and I can't believe they're still "visualizing" it.
The DMU 'Indigo' lines are pretty solid, and I have some adjustments, but hey, I'd certainly take what they're giving.
It's incredibly disappointing that the outrageously bloated South Coast Rail Project is depicted. That thing needs a garlic-soaked stake to the heart, pronto! Interesting that they still don't expect a stop in Plaistow, NH by then, however.
The lack of a Red-Blue connector is also disappointing. At least TRY to pursue it. It's critical to system-wide capacity and to regional mobility. Give me a break, MassDOT!
BrandeisRoberts wrote:I'm kind of surprised by the lack of indigo service to Waltham. Its a city with a fairly low-income and transit-dependent population, as well as a dense city center that's ripe for TODs, not to mention all of the big high tech employers and the potential for reversed commuters from Cambridge.
Rockingham Racer wrote:There's also no mention of Amtrak service via the Inland Route and the double-tracking that that would require. Is that now off the radar screen?
BrandeisRoberts wrote:I'm kind of surprised by the lack of indigo service to Waltham.
Rockingham Racer wrote:Octr,
Where you use "Eastern route" in your proposal, I believe you mean "Western Route".
BostonUrbEx wrote:Cross-posting my earlier comment on the article:Major flaws in this "vision". I realize it's merely a 2024 timeline, but they're still thinking small and irrationally. First of all, the BCEC shuttle is outrageous, and I can't believe they're still "visualizing" it.
The DMU 'Indigo' lines are pretty solid, and I have some adjustments, but hey, I'd certainly take what they're giving.
It's incredibly disappointing that the outrageously bloated South Coast Rail Project is depicted. That thing needs a garlic-soaked stake to the heart, pronto! Interesting that they still don't expect a stop in Plaistow, NH by then, however.
The lack of a Red-Blue connector is also disappointing. At least TRY to pursue it. It's critical to system-wide capacity and to regional mobility. Give me a break, MassDOT!
-----BrandeisRoberts wrote:I'm kind of surprised by the lack of indigo service to Waltham. Its a city with a fairly low-income and transit-dependent population, as well as a dense city center that's ripe for TODs, not to mention all of the big high tech employers and the potential for reversed commuters from Cambridge.
Agreed 100%. I'd also like to see DMU's to Salem, but we need to expand that single-track tunnel. And DMU's on the Reading Branch, with the Haverhill Line relying more on the Wildcat.
I'm also wondering if a Campello - East Weymouth DMU line is possible, with the focus on the Braintree transfer.
deathtopumpkins wrote:F-Line, would it really be necessary to lower Indigo fares to Zone 1A levels so they can compete with buses?
This is just my two cents, but I think maybe they should consider a zone-based system for Indigo lines, but on a cheaper scale than the existing fares. This way it would be more expensive than buses (which is logical since it costs more to run and is a higher service quality), but not $4 more. Call them zones 1A, B, C, etc., and have an increase of somewhere around $0.50 from the $2.00 base fare for each zone. Then you'd end up with, using Rockburyport as an example, Chelsea at $2.50, Lynn/Swampscott at $3.00, Salem at $3.50. I think expecting someone to pay that amount is reasonable.
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