Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

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Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby NH2060 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:57 pm

Guess some didn't do some *historical* fact checking. Like the fact that SNCF was under duress...
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/211403 ... caust-ties
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby MBTA3247 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:51 pm

I see Faux News is once again trying to bring up that bullshit about SNCF helping the Nazis.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby CRail » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:14 pm

If the people involved in the Company back then aren't dead, they certainly aren't involved with the company or its decisions anymore. I know very little about the company in question, but it sounds like a typical case of the media making something out of nothing.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby octr202 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:47 pm

This is the same BS that happened in Maryland, where Bombardier was awarded the MARC contract rather than Keolis. Keolis was able to overcome this in Virginia and win the VRE contract.

Of course, it's been reported (in places I can't quickly find now) that some of Bombardier's European predecessors worked for the Nazis too.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby Tadman » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:57 am

Aw sheesh so did Ford Motor Company and you don't see anybody trying to kick them out of America.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby NH2060 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:21 pm

And here we go again.. This time it's a group of clergymen who are protesting Keolis' bid:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/1 ... story.html
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby BostonUrbEx » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:16 pm

NH2060 wrote:And here we go again.. This time it's a group of clergymen who are protesting Keolis' bid:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/1 ... story.html


In the comments, someone praises the automatic fare collection on Keolis' French commuter rail system. How would they have any control over that here? Up to MBTA, not Keolis/MBCR.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby GP40MC 1116 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:58 pm

While I can't speak directly for VRE, my interactions with them have been wonderful. I've sat in on a week long audit with reps from both agencies and never seen anything that speaks to a bad operation. I don't think a change in operators would be a bad thing here
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby octr202 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:07 am

Another round of this. It all happened in VA and MD (where Keolis bid against Bombardier, which of course is one of the minority partners in MBCR here). In VA obviously they won, but not in MD.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby Diverging Route » Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:17 am

Looks like they're still in the running, according to the Boston Globe.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby trainhq » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:24 am

Latest says Keolis is likely going to win.I think the key is that they showed some improvment
with VRE, and MBCR didn't up here. There were too many people complaining, and too little
improvement. Everyone agrees that the old equipment has a lot to do with it, but the T
felt they should have done better. We'll see what the final word is.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby wicked » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:23 pm

Methink$ that $ource is a T board member who'd like to $ee MBCR keep the contract.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:02 pm

Makes that very curious proposal for an MBCR-paid maint facility on the Stop & Shop parcel seem more like last-ditch Hail Mary to salvage a impending loss. If Scott's preference is going public barely a week later, privately it had to have been clear to all parties what her recommendation was before that Globe story broke about the facility proposal.

I wonder if MBCR trying to pull an end-run around the T with that by taking it to community leaders first ends up hurting them even more with board members when it's time for the final vote.
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby Diverging Route » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:19 am

And more from the Globe this morning.

Ugh. Litigation. This will draw things out, cost money, and our service won't improve.

MBCR: Where was your investment the past 11 years? Where was your improvement in service, and customer service? NOW, you want to promise things will get better?
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Re: Keolis Bid Under Scrutiny (Again)

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:55 pm

Yup. And this is the tell that they know awhile ago that they lost. 2 days after Scott's recommendation goes public they retort with this.

Nothing left to do but go scorched earth. I wonder which partner is most agitating for a fight. Bombardier in particular can't exactly afford to spread more ill will after the VRE contract ugliness and the Amtrak ugliness.
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