Official Rail Washer Thread

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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby AEM7AC920 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:22 pm

This year we have both of the gensets online as well as the 904 so it shouldn't be a problem provided none of the above fail. Also last year the work train crew ending up running the northside wash so if that happens again the 3247 will most likey cover the assaignment. There have been on going talks of having dedicated crews during the height of the season on duty 24 hrs (2 seperate crews) or even running it overnight which has been done in the past.
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby joshg1 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:02 pm

Pressurized water blows leaves off the line. Then what? Depending on location, won't the leaves blow back? When we remove leaves from lawns, pavement, gutters, we pick them up somehow and remove them. I feel I'm missing something.

And it was about 10 years ago that the British were complaining about delays and cancelled trains in the fall. The privatized rail operators said, "Leaves on line!" And there weren't leaves in BR days? "Oh, well- these are the wrong kind of leaves."
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby diburning » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:25 pm

There's nothing wrong with leaves on the rails. Leaves blow onto the rails, leaves fall off or blow off the rails. It's when they get wet and stick that makes it a problem. When they get wet and stick, or if they happen to be on the rails, and a train runs over them, they disintegrate into a slippery goo. The rail washer's job is to blast this goo off the rails. When the goo transfers onto the wheels, it makes it more difficult to brake even if there aren't any leaves on the rails when they try to brake.

This is why they run the wash train multiple times a week along the same lines if the goo becomes a problem.
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby AEM7AC920 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:12 pm

It does help a ton for those of you wondering as well!
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby sery2831 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:16 am

This video does a good job of explaining it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaESO8t8v9w

And the MBCR wash train video as well:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9Rl6RGhKg
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby agarturbo » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:52 pm

As I recall, while leaves from all types of trees can end up on the rails, it is the leaves from a specific type of tree that is common in this area that is the worst offender. I do not remember the type of tree. Perhaps the video mentions it. Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:10 pm

Which line gets hit the worst with this issue? I know Fitchburg's always bad because its length stretches from the parts of the state where the leaves fall earliest to the parts where the leaves fall last, has hilly spots, and has too much overgrowth in general. But which other ones are a particularly royal PITA?
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby AEM7AC920 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:46 pm

They all have bad spots on them however Fitchburg and the gloucester branch are the worst!
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:11 am

Worcester and Franklin are the worst on the Southside
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby MBTA1016 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:05 pm

Is the NEC bad with leaves?
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:25 am

Mbta fan wrote:Is the NEC bad with leaves?


It's New England so all of them are. But the NEC heads due south to the shoreline on mostly flat land, while anything that tilts even a smidge westward (including Franklin and Lowell) starts climbing part of the higher-elevation Worcester Hills with the chillier Sept. nights. It's almost exclusively in territory where the leaves change last in the entire state, so the time of year where it would need the rail washer is later and much more compressed. The onshore wind is also a lot calmer and warmer along Cape-shielded Massachusetts Bay than it is on the North Shore, so the leaves aren't blowing down as quickly when they change as, say, the Eastern Route. The NEC is a much wider ROW that passes through a lot more grassy swampland en route than new-growth forest hugging very close to the ROW boundaries, so it fares a little better than the also-warm Old Colony Lines which have closer-abutting tall trees. And it's got the heaviest traffic of them all with sharply higher-frequency maintenance and inspection thanks to Amtrak so there's less of a daily settling of dry leaf cover in the evenings that'll get all dewey and slippery for the morning commute (Acelas make good leaf blowers!).


Yes, it's affected like they all are. But it gets affected a lot later in the season than most others so it's a relative latecomer into the wash rotation.
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby MBTA1016 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:30 pm

Ok thanx f-line. I knew some lines like the Fitchburg and Worcester get hit hard due to leaves causing problems.
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby tvachon » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:35 am

Mbta fan wrote:Ok thanx f-line. I knew some lines like the Fitchburg and Worcester get hit hard due to leaves causing problems.


Very true. Fitchburg has some pretty bad spots on track 2 in at least Lincoln, South Acton, and Littleton. I wonder how the line being shutdown on the weekends is impacting the washers ability to work on the line.

Last night we were going for a ride into Lincoln, I think even at a nice slow approach we overshot by 1/4 a car.
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby AEM7AC920 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:59 am

The washer is running at least 5 days a week now so even if the line is closed on the weekend, it will be washed during weekday runs.
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Re: Official Rail Washer Thread

Postby joshg1 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:48 am

Spotted at South Station ~945 PM Weds the 9th. Didn't ask where they were going, just got a few shots before the last bus. Excuse the links- they're easier than downsizing an image to post here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/newmundane/10182456435/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/newmundane/10182353204

I should add that car 1500 was on the end, not a caboose.
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