Countdown Signs Discussion

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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby ST214 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:45 am

All signs were properly working Friday!
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:45 pm

Today I was watching the sign at Jackson Square. It was at "2 min" when I got there. It changed to "ARR" for arriving, despite no automatic announcements whatsoever. Then it just disappeared and the train on the second line ("4 min") moved up to the first slot. So either there was a ghost train or a bug in the system. ;)
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:53 pm

Steve Annear just announced on Twitter that the MBTA is ready to announce the introduction of countdowns in subway stations. Great news!
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby TrainManTy » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:32 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:Steve Annear just announced on Twitter that the MBTA is ready to announce the introduction of countdowns in subway stations. Great news!


Clarification: the announcement is for Green Line subway stations. :wink:
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:42 pm

TrainManTy wrote:
BostonUrbEx wrote:Steve Annear just announced on Twitter that the MBTA is ready to announce the introduction of countdowns in subway stations. Great news!


Clarification: the announcement is for Green Line subway stations. :wink:


Woops, yes. Completely left out the key bit of info. Ha!

The story is hot off the presses: http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog ... ain-signs/

EDIT: These will only tell you what trains are next. They will NOT tell you how much longer you'll be waiting.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby djimpact1 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:39 pm

It sounds like inclusion of these "Next Train" signs is really prep-work to have them currently operational, for future usage as countdown clock signs (since the T said it would be around 2015 when the Green Line would have such countdown capabilities implemented/rolled out).

Think about it, depending on what line you're traveling, past Copley or Kenmore stations (outbound on branches) or prior to Copley/Kenmore (inbound), do you really need a sign telling you a train is arriving if it's...ARRIVING?! You can clearly see it approaching. I'd say in this equipment set-up phase, the only use for this functionality will be from Lechmere to Copley/Kenmore prior to branch-specific splits (i.e. "oh look, the next train is a D train...I want that").

...and yes, I know non-E trains terminate before Lechmere, but let's not encourage train-bunching & have everyone boarding E trains to Lechmere / I'd prefer taking any train & transferring as necessary - keeps a better "spread".
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby octr202 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:25 pm

Well, one advantage of this intermediate step (just showing the route/destination) is that it'll help make up for those horrid LCD destination signs that are barely legible unless you're right next to them!
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:16 pm

octr202 wrote:Well, one advantage of this intermediate step (just showing the route/destination) is that it'll help make up for those horrid LCD destination signs that are barely legible unless you're right next to them!


Agreed!!
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:21 am

octr202 wrote:Well, one advantage of this intermediate step (just showing the route/destination) is that it'll help make up for those horrid LCD destination signs that are barely legible unless you're right next to them!


Great point! Those displays are horrid...

As of this morning, the "next train" feature is not working. They're unveiling them at 2pm today, and I presume they'll be running at that time.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby StefanW » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:11 pm

Right now it's 1:06 PM and I'm boarding at Kenmore (but I can't wait until 2PM) and there's no sign - pun intended - of anything formal happening later. The signs are powered but only showing the time.

I asked the Green Line inspector here if they are still set to go live today and he said "not sure there was a software bug" but he also said he thought people would be showing up "later today" to do with the signs.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby StefanW » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:22 pm

I just realized that one thing in that Boston Mag. article is puzzling:

what they may look like, and where they will be situated, remains a mystery—for now.


That can't be right because at least the ones at Kenmore were installed long before today, and to my eye they look exactly like the ones on the heavy rail lines. As for locations: there are (at least) five I saw at Kenmore... One opposite the fare gates on the top level and four at the platform level - one on each end of the platform for each inbound track. Probably the same on the outbound side.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:19 pm

The signs kicked on just shy of 2pm:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUi0uVyCcAAADj_.jpg:large
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby MBTA3247 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:47 pm

Seriously? They couldn't fit "Riverside" on there?
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby The EGE » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:47 pm

Looks like they're leaving space for countdown timers once those transponders are fully online in 2015.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby jamesinclair » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:20 pm

The EGE wrote:Looks like they're leaving space for countdown timers once those transponders are fully online in 2015.


Its simple software....

You can have full names today AND make room for clocks in 2015. Its not either/or.
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