MBTA Old Colony Line

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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby BostonUrbEx » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:54 pm

merrick1 wrote:It looks like the narrowest spot on the right of way is at Savin Hill. Could they have both Ashmont and Braintree Red Line trains stop at Savin Hill and build a new junction south of Savin Hill? Another possibility would be three tracks for the Red Line with peak direction Braintree trains bypassing Savin Hill. This would require a more complex junction south of Savin Hill. Either plan would leave room for two tracks for the commuter rail.


I suggested this on here a while ago, and very recently on archBoston. F-Line explained, however, that due to the imbalance in headways a three-track operation would result in, the plan was unfeasible. The reason they planned it for the Orange Line was the easy ability to pull, hold, and/or insert trains into service via a yard with access on both ends.

This was my plan:

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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby djlong » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:01 am

Wicked: There's a heck of a lot more than 200 people affected. I count over 50 houses from Boston Collegiate Charter School (practically under the SE Expwy) to Kennedy Cleaners at Savin Hill Station. *Most* of those houses are triple deckers. So that's three apartments in each - most of those being 2BR units. There's also a larger percentage of immigrants there and the housing tends to be more dense when it comes to number of occupants per bedroom.

Now, on top of that, you're going to take everyone on the OTHER side of Sydney Street and turn their frontage from "neighborhood" to "industrial". The houses near the top of the hill at Savin Hill Ave are also a bit more affluent.

You could NEVER get this through.

You'd have a better chance stealing space on the OTHER side of the Expressway where only the Savin Hill abutment would present problems.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby wicked » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:46 am

djlong wrote:You'd have a better chance stealing space on the OTHER side of the Expressway where only the Savin Hill abutment would present problems.


DJ, you raise valid points. I was just openly musing about a possible way to get it done.

If you go on the other side, you have to deal with the abutment, which would require taking some valuable homes; blasting through there, a complicated construction project; and also taking land from McConnell Park and filling in part of the bay/cove there.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:56 am

For the amount of work needed to complete this project, it will never happen because in the end, is it worth 2.4 miles of double track to completely rework the red line/Columbia Junction/the taking of homes OR realigning the SE Xpressway/along with the millions of dollars it will require...this is a tight 2.4 miles of single track in which there is very little to no room to play with. Also must realized the tight S curves under the SE expressway in which the Middleboro Mainline must snake around the support pillars. The suggestion I throw out would be to shift the Red Line over one track to the East of the its current position after the North Quincy stop. There are signs that show that there were once 3 tracks supported on the Red Line side (most of the overhead bridges show support beams for 3 tracks) Shift the red line over one track and allow the Commuter Rail to take a track between SQUANT and just north of the Quincy Center stop...giving the MM an addition 1.2 miles of double track
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby The ViRoCo » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:08 am

Yesterday 11/2, I heard on my scanner that one of the MBTA trains, a mid-day one, had to remain 50 feet behind the platform in Middleboro for the 'Middleboro Extra.' Does anyone have any idea what this was? Was it the powerwash extra?
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby wicked » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:33 am

My first guess would be it had something to do with the Red Sox parade.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby wicked » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:40 am

Also worth considering, re: an alignment change in Dorchester: the Globe property is going to get redeveloped sooner or later, and probably on the sooner end of the timeline. That could ease some of the issues with snaking around the Expressway supports.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby MBTA3247 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:05 pm

wicked wrote:Also worth considering, re: an alignment change in Dorchester: the Globe property is going to get redeveloped sooner or later, and probably on the sooner end of the timeline. That could ease some of the issues with snaking around the Expressway supports.

The Boston Globe property is on the other side of the Expressway from the Old Colony line and reached by a spur that ducks under the highway. Removal of that spur will have no effect on the alignment of the mainline.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby The ViRoCo » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:36 am

Heads up! MBTA Geometry Extra on the Middleboro/Lakeville line! Currently at Bridgewater waiting for the signal from a passenger train.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby The ViRoCo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:32 am

Yesterday, light engine 1119(?) headed north, any idea what it was for? It may have headed from Bay.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby GP40MC1118 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:36 am

Probably the Southside Terminal Switcher doing some sort of work in Middleboro. The
1119 came over to BET late Sunday afternoon with the 1030 & 1032. Went back south
with the 1119 & 1064.

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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby The ViRoCo » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:47 pm

MBTA Extra 1504 just cleared Bay (end of MBTA, beginning of Mass Coastal) heading Northbound! Heads up! Possibly has the MBTA 1120.
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby GP40MC1118 » Thu May 01, 2014 12:28 am

Cape Flyer qualifying runs....

Sperry Car is also coming to the Cape 5/5 to 5/9..

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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby NH2060 » Thu May 01, 2014 1:25 am

Kingston/Plymouth to someday see restored weekend service again? (An update on a pre-existing push to bring Sat./Sun./Holiday service back):
Now local legislators, spurred on by former railroad engineer and Duxbury resident Richard Prone, are trying to restart weekend service on the line and revitalize interest in the rail service overall.

http://plymouth.wickedlocal.com/article ... 2/?start=1
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Re: MBTA Old Colony Line

Postby The ViRoCo » Thu May 01, 2014 5:18 am

GP40MC1118 wrote:Cape Flyer qualifying runs....

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This was actually a train for the press conference held in Hyannis yesterday.
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