Sea Isle City Branch

Discussion relating to the PRSL

Moderator: JJMDiMunno

Sea Isle City Branch

Postby limejuice » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:38 pm

I was looking at some older maps of this area, and there seems to have been a P-RSL branch to Sea Isle City. The ROW seems evident looking north from rt. 625 into the marshes between the town and the GSP. When was this branch abandoned? What other shore towns were served by the P-RSL?
limejuice
 
Posts: 614
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:51 pm

Postby PARailWiz » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:16 pm

What other shore towns were served by the P-RSL?

Atlantic City, Ocean City, Stone Harbor, Wildwood, Cape May, and more in northern Jersey. You can see those on this map http://www.readingrailroad.org/reading/images/rdg_map_system_20x12_72.jpg
More knowledgable people could certainly tell you more.
User avatar
PARailWiz
 
Posts: 488
Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:59 pm
Location: Norristown, PA

Postby TuckertonRR » Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:09 pm

I've got a copy of an old map from about '33 or so entitled "proposed lease of WJ&S RR by AC RR Co, and shows the line at MP 60 of WJS through Sea Isle Jct, and Ocean View to Sea Isle City "to be abandoned". Also "to be abandoned" is the line south of Sea Isle Jct. (which eventually parralells the CMSL today) along with the stations of S Seaville, Swain, Cape May CH, Wildwood Jct, Rio Grande, & Bennett. Also on the chopping block it looks like svc between Stone Harbor & Sea Isle (Stone Harbor, Peermont, Avalon, Townsends Inlet)

That makes me wonder....would anything be left of any rail - related things down that way?
TuckertonRR
 

Postby choochoochuck » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:41 am

Actually, haha i just said thiis in another post but once PRSL was formed they immeadiately cutt serrvicie to Stone HArbor.
choochoochuck
 

Postby JJMDiMunno » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:32 am

choochoochuck wrote:Actually, haha i just said thiis in another post but once PRSL was formed they immeadiately cutt serrvicie to Stone HArbor.


Actually, I'm showing the discontinuance of service to Stone Harbor being on January 1, 1954...the last industry served was a lumberyard there...the last train pulled the last car out of there on December 30, 1953...

Mike DiMunno
www.SJRail.com: All about South Jersey Railroads!
~Mike DiMunno
CSAO Beesley Point Secondary - MP 8.69 (Magnolia, NJ)
Moderator: Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines :: Penn Central
User avatar
JJMDiMunno
 
Posts: 739
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:55 am
Location: Hi Nella, NJ

Postby choochoochuck » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:15 pm

Yeah, service into Stone Harbor was discontinued in the 30s (says the Stone Harbor Railroad Book) but they continued to serve a lumber yard in Scotch Arbor into the 50s.
choochoochuck
 

Pre-PRSL relics\

Postby JimBoylan » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:23 am

TuckertonRR wrote:That makes me wonder....would anything be left of any rail - related things down that way?
I think I saw the READING's Strathmere station 7/3/2005, abandoned about 1924. The Atlantic City Railroad book has a photo of it as a lean-to, and one of the taverns near the bay has a shed of the same outline, but with the open side closed in.
The concrete foundations for the platforms, buildings, signal bridge, etc. at Sea Isle Jct. probably still survive, but the white milepost was WOODEN, and well decayed about 1985.
JimBoylan
 
Posts: 3104
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:33 pm

Unification

Postby JimBoylan » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:11 am

TuckertonRR wrote:I've got a copy of an old map from about '33 or so entitled "proposed lease of WJ&S RR by AC RR Co."
Does your map show the proposed connections to preserve business while abandoning most superfluous trakage? ConRail had a copy and I remember much of it.
Brown Tower, Atco, Hammonton, Egg Harbor, Germania (Cologne), Atlantic City, Ocean City (51st St.), Goshen, Wildwood (Oak Ave.).
Woodbine Jct. was already built; Cape May and Glassboro may have been, too; and Winslow Jct. alterations may have been planned and done later.
JimBoylan
 
Posts: 3104
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:33 pm

Postby glennk419 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:04 pm

I was out wave running over 4th of July weekend between OC and Sea Isle and besides inspecting what's left of Crook Horn bridge from the "marine side", noticed a concrete bridge abutment between Strathmere and SIC. It is on the east side of the Intracoastal waterway well out in the marshes. With a little imagination, you can also make out the remnants of the ROW heading back toward the mainland. I assume this is the remains of the aforementioned Reading line. I also believe I've seen the shed that Jim mentioned and there are a few remaining pilings directly across the bay from that location.
Glenn
User avatar
glennk419
 
Posts: 2842
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:44 pm
Location: Southeastern PA & Cape May County, NJ

Postby glennk419 » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:47 pm

While reading the thread on the Cape May Point branch, Jim Boylan included a link to some US Army maps of the area. According to this map, there was a leg off of the OC branch which ran south from 51st Street, across Corson's Inlet, through Strathmere and then connecting with the Sea Isle branch. It is marked PRSL so it is not the trolley line. The map also shows the then abandoned Strathmere branch referenced in another thread. This is the first I've ever heard of this, very interesting stuff. Here's the link: http://historical.maptech.com/getImage.cfm?fname=seai41nw.jpg&state=NJ
Glenn
User avatar
glennk419
 
Posts: 2842
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:44 pm
Location: Southeastern PA & Cape May County, NJ

Postby PARailWiz » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:45 pm

While reading the thread on the Cape May Point branch, Jim Boylan included a link to some US Army maps of the area. According to this map, there was a leg off of the OC branch which ran south from 51st Street, across Corson's Inlet, through Strathmere and then connecting with the Sea Isle branch. It is marked PRSL so it is not the trolley line. The map also shows the then abandoned Strathmere branch referenced in another thread. This is the first I've ever heard of this, very interesting stuff. Here's the link: http://historical.maptech.com/getImage. ... g&state=NJ


http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4341337&e=531151&s=50&size=l&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25

This link shows the latest (I think) quadrangle map of the area, and you can see a wye in the same location that branch goes.
The picture to the right is a photo of Silverliner I 246 located at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in Strasburg, PA.
User avatar
PARailWiz
 
Posts: 488
Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:59 pm
Location: Norristown, PA

Postby glennk419 » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:26 pm

They appear to be very similar except the second map shows abandoned trackage, both show the 51st St passing siding and a wye. I just thought it interesting that this was never brought up before. The map I referenced was from 1941, certainly not all THAT long ago. Do you have a date on the later map?
Glenn
User avatar
glennk419
 
Posts: 2842
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:44 pm
Location: Southeastern PA & Cape May County, NJ

Postby JimBoylan » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:44 pm

The 1941 map shows the old PRR line between its Sea Isle City wye and the new P-RSL wye at 51st St., Ocean City. If you think the Reading's entrance to Ocean City is roundabout, the PRR's was via Woodbine Jct., South Seaville, Sea Isle Jct., Sea Isle City, Whale Beach, Corson's Inlet and 51st St. To avoid running through Millville, PRR express trains sometimes used the RDG between Winslow Jct. and Woodbine Jct.
The RDG line ran from Petersburg (near Palermo) through Seaville, Strathmere, and then a few feet bayside of the PRR through Whale Beach to a dead end at Sea Isle City. About 1924, when the Reading was abandoned between Seaville and Sea Isle City, a connection was built in S. I. C. so the PRR could serve the former RDG freight customers in town.
My cousin remembers that in the 1940s there was one train a week, with a steam engine, referred to by the locals as the "Fishermen's Special", but he can't remember the consist.
JimBoylan
 
Posts: 3104
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:33 pm

Postby mgdemarco2 » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:06 pm

We were recently in a boat near Strathmere. If you go just a few hundred yards south of the large antenna tower before the bridge into Strathmere, you can see what appears to be the remains of a bridge in the marshes as you look west. Also, as was mentioned earlier on this board the bar staff at Twisties in Strathmere has said their bar sits on the location of the former train station.
mgdemarco2
 

Postby glennk419 » Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:38 am

I believe the shed at Twisties which sits perpendicular to the bay is the actual station building. Talk about the quintesential shore bar, I love that place, even without it's railroad history.
Glenn
User avatar
glennk419
 
Posts: 2842
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:44 pm
Location: Southeastern PA & Cape May County, NJ

Next

Return to Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests