PRR obs car "Atterbury"

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PRR obs car "Atterbury"

Postby The Man » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:55 pm

Anyone know what trains car #8427 the William Wallace Atterbury ran on? Photos could be cool.

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Postby CarterB » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:49 am

IIRC, the WWA ran on the Cincinnati Ltd. Probably ran on others as well. Owned by James E. Strates Carnival. Car #7 Hamburg, NY.

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Postby The Man » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:17 am

I have been doing some looking and was wondering if anyone has any ideas as to who bought the car from the PRR? JESX did not get it until 1972. I would think the car had some time to rome before it made it's way to Orlando? Plus I found this picture online. Was this some PRR paint job? I can't belive they would take a turn so late. It also has the number 8975 on it.


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Postby The Man » Sat May 03, 2008 3:42 am

Does anyone know how many of the blunt end obs cars are still out there? I know of the tower view, Mountain view, WWA, and the Samuel Rae. Any others? Also the WWA is going to be preserved. The deal to get her from the Strates Shows is done and it has already had some work done to the trucks and some of the walls added by the JES have been removed. More as it happens.

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Re: PRR obs cars

Postby The Man » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:10 am

Does anyone know how many PRR obs cars like the WWA are still around?

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Re: PRR obs car "Atterbury"

Postby The Man » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:07 am

I have found three for sure that are still out there.

PRR 8423 Frank Thomson is in Winslow, AZ as the Louis Sochalexis in PRR paint.
PRR 8426 Samuel Rea French Lick, IN.
PRR 8427 William Wallace Atterbury Orlando, FL as JESX/RHSX #7.
There seems to be one more of these in TX as a PV.

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PRR 8419 Mountain View, Altoona, PA.
PRR 8420 Tower View, Strasburg, PA.

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Re: PRR obs car "Atterbury"

Postby gokeefe » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:52 pm

I would be interested in knowing what trains the "Frank Thomson" (PRR 8423, "Louis Sockalexis") ran on. I've seen one reference to a Cincinnati train and not much else. The design seems similar to the "Alexander Hamilton" which is owned by Morristown & Erie and as I understand it ran on the Congressional.
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Re: PRR obs car "Atterbury"

Postby CarterB » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:52 pm

Some history of the later PRR uses for the blunt end cars

"The PRR purchased postwar Sleeper Lounge Observations for three of their premium service trains the CINCINNATI LIMITED, LIBERTY LIMITED and SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS. These cars with 2 Drawing Rooms 1 Compartment 1 Double Bedroom Buffet 25 seat Lounge Observations were delivered by Pullman Standard in February March 1949. They were originally intended to carry NARROWS suffix names but before delivery the cars received names of noted PRR personalities.

2 DRAWING ROOM 1 COMPARTMENT 1 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard February - March 1949 Plan: 4134 Lot: 6792 (Built for and assigned to specific trains)

CINCINNATI LIMITED

GEORGE BROOK ROBERTS intended name BRANDYWINE NARROWS

FRANK THOMSEN intended name CONEMAUGH NARROWS

LIBERTY LIMITED

THOMAS ALEXANDER SCOTT intended name ALLEGHENY NARROWS

ALEXANDER JOHNSON CASSATT intended name OHIO NARROWS

SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS

JAMES McCREA intended name POTOMAC NARROWS

SAMUEL REA intended name SCHUYLKILL NARROWS

WILLIAM WALLACE ATTERBURY intended name SUSQUEHANNA NARROWS "


"The PRR never purchased any additional new streamlined Parlor cars for any other service. When additional streamlined Parlor cars were required for trains between Washington and New York the PRR turned to some of their little used prewar sleeper lounge observations and later some of the postwar sleeper lounge Observations. There were no internal changes made to these cars they were simply designated as parlors and they were assigned 7100 series numbers for parlor car service. Two of these cars were designated Parlor cars in January 1957 and followed by two additional cars in April 1957. The five postwar cars were designated parlors in November 1957.

1 DOUBLE BEDROOM 2 MASTER ROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard May 1938 Plan: 4080 Lot 6548 (Designated Parlor cars January 1957)

7150 SKYLINE VIEW originally 8116 SKYLINE VIEW

7151 WASHINGTON VIEW originally 8117 WASHINGTON VIEW

1 DOUBLE BEDROOM 1 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOMS BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard May 1938 Plan: 4081 Lot: 6549 (designated Parlor cars April 1957)

7152 WILLIAM CHAMBERLIN PATTERSON ex PRR 8111 WILLIAM CHAMBERLIN PATTERSON originally PRR 8111 JUNIATA NARROWS

7153 SAMUEL VAUGHN MERRICK ex PRR 8113 SAMUEL VAUGN MERRICK ex PRR 8113 WAKE ISLAND originally PRR 8113 JACK'S NARROWS

1 DOUBLE BEDROOM 1 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATION Pullman Standard February - March 1949 Plan: 4134 Lot: 6792 (Designated Parlor cars November 1957)

7154 ALEXANDER JOHNSTON CASSATT originally PRR 8424 ALEXANDER JOHNSTON CASSATT

7155 WILLIAM WALLACE ATTERBURY originally PRR 8427 WILLIAM WALLACE ATTERBURY

7156 FRANK THOMSON originally PRR 8423 FRANK THOMSON

7157 JAMES McCREA originally PRR 8425 JAMES McCREA

7158 GEORGE BROOKE ROBERTS originally PRR 8422 GEORGE BROOKE ROBERTS

These last five cars were returned to Sleeper Lounge Service in June 1958 and reverted to their 8400 series numbers. The four prewar Sleeper Lounge Observations remained in Parlor car service until retired by the PRR in 1961."

source
http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/t/48375.aspx?page=48
http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/p/35270/44 ... x?page=207
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