PRR/PC Metroliners

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PRR/PC Metroliners

Postby One of One-Sixty » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:55 pm

It is my understanding that although Pennsy ordered the Metroliners that they did not go into service until after the merger with New York Central.

So my questions are as follows:

1) How many of the Metroliners did Pennsy order, as well as how many variations was ordered?

2) Was there any real difference between the Pennsy Metroliners and the Penn Central ones, meaning did PC want certains things added or removed that PRR either had or did not have?

3) What types of horns was used for the Metroliners?

4) What was the orginal numbering squences, and did Penn Central alter the numbering for their needs?

Thanks for your time.
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Postby JimBoylan » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:26 pm

One of One-Sixty wrote:It is my understanding that although Pennsy ordered the Metroliners that they did not go into service until after the merger with New York Central.
1) How many of the Metroliners did Pennsy order, as well as how many variations was ordered?
60, in conjunction with the U.S. goverment, 20 coach, 20 snack bar coach, and 20 parlor car. 11 more with the State of Pennsylvania, all snack bar coach.
2) Was there any real difference between the Pennsy Metroliners and the Penn Central ones, meaning did PC want certains things added or removed that PRR either had or did not have?
Other than changing the markings (Keystone to mating worms), just continuous correction of "bugs".
3) What types of horns was used for the Metroliners?
Don't know.
4) What was the orginal numbering squences, and did Penn Central alter the numbering for their needs?
I think it was 801 thru 860 and 880 thru 890 (the state cars).
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Postby JimBoylan » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:10 am

I'm sorry, I think I'm off in my totals, and that there were only 61 Metroliners altogether. I probably miscounted the parlor cars.
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Postby Dieter » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:50 pm

Were the Metroliners delivered with Keystones? I've never seen a picture of them. I also recall, could be wrong though, that the Metroliners arrived about the same time as the Penn Central nightmare began.

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Postby JimBoylan » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:20 pm

Dieter wrote:Were the Metroliners delivered with Keystones? I've never seen a picture of them.
There are photos of them at Jenkintown and Wayne Jct. on the Reading while being delivered from Budd, with keystones on the ends.
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Postby Ramcat » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:41 am

There were 31, 76 seat, coaches fitted with Westinghouse propulsion equipment, PRR/PC 800-830.

There were 20, 60 seat, snack bar coaches fitted with General Electric propulsion equipment, PRR/PC 850-869.

There were 10, 34 seat, parplor cars fitted with General Electric propulsion equipment, PRR/PC 880-889.

All were equipped with General Steel trucks and Symington-Wayne (Dresser) SW-800 flat face hook couplers and Walton Products pin type trainline electrical connectors below the coupler. The electrical connectors were later replaced with jumper cables on all cars.
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Postby F23A4 » Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:50 pm

My post at the foot of this thread link (http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21644&start=15) has magazine scans of an indepth article on the Metroliners.
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Postby Dieter » Tue May 02, 2006 10:46 am

For your reference;

The JUNE 2006 Issue of TRAINS Magazine has an article regarding the history of Metroliner Service.

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Postby BlockLine_4111 » Fri May 05, 2006 1:15 am

These EMU's were classics IMO. IIRC they began running in odd qty. sets on the Keystone(r) trains before they were retired. :wink:
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Postby Tadman » Fri May 12, 2006 6:21 pm

I have an old magazine showing E60's hauling metro-EMU's on a keystone run. Both MU's and locomotive had raised pans - locomotive for propulsion, MU for heat/lights.
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Postby One of One-Sixty » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:39 pm

What type of trucks Budd use on the Metroliners? I could not find any info on that, thanks guys.
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Postby chuchubob » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:49 pm

BlockLine_4111 wrote:These EMU's were classics IMO. IIRC they began running in odd qty. sets on the Keystone(r) trains before they were retired. :wink:

westbound Capitoliner running through Radnor Oct 21, 1981
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Postby nydepot » Tue May 08, 2007 10:23 am

Anyone have the builder's number for these, specifically 818? Thanks.

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Postby trainspot » Thu May 10, 2007 11:56 am

Here's one with keystones:

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Postby trainspot » Thu May 10, 2007 1:48 pm

The photo and roster can be found here:
http://www.hebners.net/amtrak/amtMETRO.html
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