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Preserved NYC locomotives

Postby Otto Vondrak » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:11 am

How many NYC locomotives have been preserved today? For this poll, "preserved" can mean stuffed and mounted for display, or operating on a tourist railroad. The caveat- the engine must be wearing NYC paint. The NYC-painted FL9's on Metro-North do not count (but they look SHARP).

Here is the list I can think of off the top of my head...

- 2 NYC E-8's 4068, 4080 at TVRM (operating)

- 1 NYC RS-3 8223 on Adirondack Scenic (operating)

- 1 NYC RS-3 8255 on the Midland Railway in Baldwin, Kansas (operating)

- 1 NYC 0-6-0 6721 on display at Utica Union Station

- 1 L3a Mohawk 3001 at NNYCM in Elkhart

- 1 NYC E-8 4085 at same

- 1 NYC S-motor 113 at St. Louis Tranport Museum

- 1 NYC S-motor 100 at M&H Chapter NRHS (stored)

- 1 NYC T3a motor 278 at M&H Chapter NRHS (stored)

- 1 NYC S-motor 115 at Illinois Railway Museum (operating, painted PC 4715)

- others?? status?

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Postby Roger Hensley » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:22 am

0-6-0 Switcher NYC 6894 at Whitewater Valley RR in COnnersville IN
Here is a link to their PDF Media Release.

http://www.whitewatervalleyrr.org/media ... elease.pdf
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Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:45 am

GP8 5770 later CR 5432 now MNCR 543, NYC despite hidden under MNCR paint.

GP9 5935 later CR 7508 now MNCR 750, NYC despite hidden under MNCR paint.


Both units are fully operational and in daily use.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Postby rlsteam » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:38 pm

Don't forget L-2d 4-8-2 2933 at the Museum of Transportation in St. Louis.
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Stuffed and mounted NYC

Postby H.F.Malone » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:10 pm

Aw, c'mon, Otto, ya call yerself an NYC fan and don't mention the most famous one of all??!! 4-4-0 #999, at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago. Very nicely restored about 7-8 years ago by J. David himself.

Sheesh. You rookies......
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Postby Otto Vondrak » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:26 pm

Oh, right, the 999. Hehe, yeah, I guess that's a good one. I was only thinking of engines from 1910 and after... unless you want to count the replica DeWitt Clinton, too... what happened to that thing?

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remedial lessons....

Postby H.F.Malone » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:31 am

Man, I'm-a gonna assign you some REAL homework next time I see you.... "engines from 1910 and after"... when the heck do ya think those S-motors were riveted together? Let's see...GCT was built in 1906, they needed non-steam power.....um, S-motors? The S-motor builder's plate reads "1906".

Now, if only the Mets would think to bring a "nearby" one into GCT for a 100th anniversary bash, afterward, maybe it could go live at a new home with a direct MNCR connection. Could it happen?

RE: 999... the way it is now, it's more a 1905-10 era lower-drivered rebuild in appearance. Just like the 4-4-0s used on the Put in the teens and twenties. 1015 was its later number, I think.
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Postby shlustig » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:05 pm

Otto:

IIRC, the DeWitt Clinton is at the Ford Museum in Dearborn.

Also, what about the B-6 switcher which recently moved from Hagerstown to the Whitewater Valley RR?
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Postby Roger Hensley » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:02 am

shlustig wrote:Also, what about the B-6 switcher which recently moved from Hagerstown to the Whitewater Valley RR?


Whitewater Valley sez it's a B-10. From their Press Release:
"This locomotive is one of only 11 authentic NYC steam locomotives in existence and the only one of its B-10 class to survive."
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Postby Otto Vondrak » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:48 am

HFM- give me some credit! ;-) I know the S-motors are the earliest examples from electrification and are pre-1910... it's just that 999 wasn't on my list...

I'd love to see an S-motor and a T-motor come home, but I'm afraid the two examples we have in New York State will be sold for scrap before they are released for preservation.

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preserved New york central locomotives

Postby nick plate » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:02 pm

New York Central GE U25B #2500 is on display at the Lakeshore Railway Historical Society museum, at North East, Pa., about 15 miles east of Erie,Pa.,off Interstate 90.
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Postby H.F.Malone » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:26 pm

Yep, the two GE U25Bs were also forgotten, even by 'ol HFM. One at Erie, apparently safe and in good hands, and the other (2513?) badly deteriorated and on borrowed time, like the T-and S-motors.

There is a Santa Fe 2-8-0 stuffed and mounted in Oklahoma that started life as a NYC&HRR engine, blt 1910. There is the LS&MS 2-8-0 up in the Maine woods with an IHB 4-6-0 at the isolated logging camp (the engines had to be dragged over the thick ice in the 1920s!!), A B&A 4-4-0 blt at West Springfield Shops in 1876, at St. Louis Museum of Transport (along with L-2 Mohawk 2933).And, a Michigan Central 4-4-2 at the Henry Ford Museum in Michigan.
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Postby onder » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:30 pm

1 NYC S-motor 100 at M&H Chapter NRHS (stored)

- 1 NYC T3a motor 278 at M&H Chapter NRHS (stored)

I second the entirely depressing reality that they are
surely NOT stored.

Close to criminal what has happened to them.
Is there any sort of move to gather some money
and move them?

Anybody in the NYC Historical Soc think abou them?
Honestly, Id give a hunnred bucks to a group that
was viable.
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Postby scottychaos » Wed May 17, 2006 7:43 am

EMD GP9 - NYC 7332 to CR 7332 - Gopher state RR museum.
(although they dont list it on their webpage now..unit is probably sround somewhere)

What happened to all the NYC GP40's??
(not dash 2's)
about 100 of them made it to Conrail.
CR 3000 - CR 3104
I believe they were the last new NYC locomotives.


found some!
Guilford has 7 of the NYC GP40's

MEC 300 - CR 3001
MEC 301 - CR 3002
MEC 302 - CR 3003
MEC 303 - CR 3004
MEC 304 - CR 3007
MEC 305 - CR 3050
MEC 306 - CR 3052

(these units kept the same road numbers from NYC-PC-CR)


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Postby *istDS » Tue May 30, 2006 9:58 pm

Although I am stretching the definition of the word preserved, the following exist on operating railroads and are WELL cared for:

4 C430 on LA&L lines
1 RS-32 each on A&M and D-L

There was a good sized group of GP-40's that went to the C&NW and were re-sold to NREC? for GP-38 conversions.

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