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Sleepercoach cars

Postby john56 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:20 pm

I believe these cars came into use on the NYC around 1959.Were they used on the 20th Century exclusively or on other NYC trains ?
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby NYC_Dave » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:11 pm

The April 26. 1964 timetable listed 11 trains using Sleepercoaches, including nos. 25 and 26.
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:15 pm

The "proper" name for the car is Slumbercoach. :wink:
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby john56 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:53 am

Thanks , on the New York Central ,which we're talking about here,they were known as and advertised as Sleepercoaches. " Rest Assured on New York Central " " :P
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby R Paul Carey » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:11 am

The 10 NYC "Sleepercoaches" were converted from 22 Roomette sleepers, with a 16-10 configuration. The NYC had four 24-8 Slumbercoaches, which were assigned to #'s 25-26. The four Slumbercoaches were sold to NP c.1964.
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby ExCon90 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:52 pm

Was "Slumbercoach" a registered trademark of the Budd Company which could not be used on other cars, or did the Passenger Department simply decide they wanted a distinctive name anyway?
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby ExNYC63 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:55 pm

It was my understanding that the Pullman Company owned the name Slumbercoach. The NYC cars
were operated by the NYC directly and therefore has to use the term Sleepercoach.
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby John Laubenheimer » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:41 pm

The October 25, 1959 timetable shows the 24-8 SLEEPERCOACHES assigned to both the 20th Century Limited and the New England States. The April 29, 1962 is the first timetable to show the 16-10 Sleepercoaches on several trains, now including the New England States.
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby John Laubenheimer » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:08 pm

Also, BUDD had initially termed the cars as SIESTA COACHES. (The Denver Zephyr's SILVER SIESTA may have been a hint to this.) Interestingly, NYC never actually owned the cars, but were on lease from BUDD. They proved to be quite popular, and when NYC's converted 22 roomette cars entered service, the original 4 cars all operated on the 20th Century Limited for a short while. The cars were returned to BUDD in 1964 (who eventually sold then to the Northern Pacific).
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby Otto Vondrak » Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:57 pm

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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby R Paul Carey » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:55 am

Otto, John:

NEVER, ever, "Slumbercoach" on NYC. Got it! (Thanks).
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Re: Sleepercoach cars

Postby jhdeasy » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:25 pm

For those who are seriously interested in Budd Slumbercoaches (and NYC Sleepercoaches), I recommend Tom Smith's article "The Budd Slumbercoach Brings Economy to Pullman Passengers" published in the Summer 2006 issue of the NRHS Bulletin.

http://srmduluth.biz/Exhibits/SlumberCoaches.pdf
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