Naugatuck Branch in the 1970's

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Naugatuck Branch in the 1970's

Postby Ruzbasan » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:26 pm

I am researching the Naugatuck Line and have a question.

From 1969-1976, what types of locomotives were used by Penn Central on the Naugatuck Branch?

What types of locomotives were used from Derby-Waterbury-Torrington, from Waterbury-Plainville, and from Waterbury to Watertown?

Please excuse me for asking about Penn Central on a New Haven forum but many former New Haven engineers worked for Penn Central and may be able to shed some light on this question.

Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Naugatuck Branch in the 1970's

Postby Noel Weaver » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:33 pm

Generally the Penn Central ran the same power that the NHRR ran which meant RS-3's and GP-9's. Occasionally something else came into the mix. Yard jobs were still mostly Alco S-1's. Dublin Street during most of the NHRR days was restricted to nothing heavier than an S-1 (0931-0995) but as of timetable 7 dated 4-26-59 the brains or lack of brains decided that any yard engine and some road engines could run on the Dublin Street although I don't think anything was done with this branch to allow heavier power and i kind of doubt if anything heavier actually ran here. There were also restrictions on the Watertown Branch that kept at least some RS-3's in Waterbury. Not too long after Penn Central took over the freight business evaporated, this was not the fault of the railroad but was a result of the big customers simply closing or moving out. This does not mean that other power would show up occasionally but probably not often. Budd cars stayed in Waterbury until after Conrail finally took over in 1976. Prnn Central made a lot of cuts but they would have come no matter who was running the operation in Waterbury and railroading continued to be interesting and in some ways better after Penn Central took over.
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Re: Naugatuck Branch in the 1970's

Postby TomNelligan » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:45 am

I was living in the Valley in the early 1970s and I'll confirm everything that Noel has written above, and just add that while Waterbury had Alco switchers, the Derby-based switcher that covered Ansonia, Derby, and Shelton was usually an SW1200 until the job was abolished a few years after the PC takeover. At one point in the early Conrail years, CR ran a Danbury-Derby-Ansonia local freight with an SW1500 that covered the lower Valley until so little industry remained that that too disappeared.
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Re: Naugatuck Branch in the 1970's

Postby Ruzbasan » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:41 pm

Noel and Tom,
This is a list I compiled from forum posts and photos of locomotives on the Naugatuck Line (and the Highland to Plainville) from 1969-1995:

Penn Central (1969-1976): RS-3, RS-3M, RS-11, GP9, U-25B, U-33B, GP38, S-1, SW-1200, RDC-1
Conrail (1976-1982): RS-3M, GP9, GP15-1, SW-1500
Boston & Maine (1982-1987): GP9, GP18, GP38-2, GP40-2
Guilford (1987-1995): GP38-2, GP40

I end at 1995 because that is when freight service ended to my home town, Torrington.

Did I leave out any locomotive type that was used on the Naugatuck Line and up to Plainville from 1969-1995? Is the list complete ?
Did the Boston & Maine use RS-3's on the Naugatuck Line or in Plainville?
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Re: Naugatuck Branch in the 1970's

Postby TomNelligan » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:41 am

No, the B&M's RS3s were all retired several years before the railroad started operating in Connecticut.
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