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Postby Allen Hazen » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:26 pm

844's record of continuous service is truly inspiring, and tourist railways probably shouldn't count, but I suspect there are tourist/museum railroads still using Alco RS-1 for power: and, though the individual locomotives used may be newer, as a TYPE the RS-1 is older than the FEF-3. (Now, if the B&O museum would fire up CNJ 1000 to pull a couple of cars around the yard in Baltimore…(Grin!))
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Postby mtuandrew » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:24 pm

Counting work locos with road capability: Amtrak's GP38H-3s, built 1966.
Counting switchers for a passenger line: Amtrak's SW1 #737, built Feb 1942.

Allen Hazen wrote:(Now, if the B&O museum would fire up CNJ 1000 to pull a couple of cars around the yard in Baltimore…(Grin!))

I see your CNJ 1000, and raise you a Dan Patch 100 :-)
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Postby MEC407 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:44 pm

mtuandrew wrote:Counting work locos with road capability: Amtrak's GP38H-3s, built 1966.


Those definitely count! I've been pulled by them on the Downeaster several times when an NPCU was out of service and they couldn't find a Genesis to replace the NPCU.
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Postby Allen Hazen » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:05 am

mtuAndrew--
Good point!
I thought about Dan Patch 100, but the Minnesota Transportation Website didn't say anything about its current condition. Does anyone know how close to being operable Dan Patch 100 (or, for that matter CNJ 1000 or one of its IR-engined siblings) is?
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Postby mtuandrew » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:56 pm

OT, but last I read in the member newsletter, Dan Patch 100 was operable a couple-few years back. MTM doesn't really take her out much anymore though, since they have plenty of EMDs for both their roundhouse caboose rides and their Wisconsin excursion train. (It also has a 1940s or 50s Waukesha diesel in place of the 1910s GM gasoline engine.)
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Postby R36 Combine Coach » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:53 am

Ken S. wrote:To answer the original question, I believe that honor might fall to NJ Transit GP40PH-2 4101 which was built in 1968 as CNJ GP40P 3672 and not counting any rebuilt rebuilt freight units that might have a lower serial number (4101's number is 34249).

The oldest locomotive in passenger service (not including MUs, RDCs or any shortline or tourist operations) might very well be NJT 4207, built NYC 3005 (GP40), 10/1965. One of the very first GP40s built (6th for NYC). NJT also has two other 4200 series GP40s from the same order, rebuilt at Juniata 1993-94.
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Postby Jeff Smith » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:45 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_F3#Su ... ocomotives

1945-1949 They no longer run for MNRR (or even CtDOT) but I believe one may still be in Harmon. One went to Adirondack Scenic (ADIX); not sure of its status. I believe MNRR dropped these from the roster around the same time they dropped the FL9's, so they were likely in service about 60 years, with the ADIX possibly still in service, albeit for a tourist railroad.
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Postby Jeff Smith » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:49 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_FL9#Legacy

This indicates the 9's went out around 2005, so figure the F-3 later F-10 went out about the same time. So yes, figure 60 years, including rebuilds.
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Postby DutchRailnut » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:16 pm

keep in mind, revenue service is what it is, not work train or company special service neither creates revenue on direct basis
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