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Postby isaksenj » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:23 pm

Catskill Mountain has three. 701 in service, 702 is under renovation, and a third is in "cold storage' pending renovation:

Former NJT 4321 - now CMRR 701, a real beauty of a job:

Exterior
http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?pho ... ntain%20RR

Interior:
http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?pho ... ntain%20RR

Former NJT 4332, soon to be CMRR 702. Crews are now renovating the interior fixtures of the car.

Exterior:
http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?pho ... ntain%20RR

Interior:
http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?pho ... ntain%20RR

...and NJT 4322 down in West Hurley, future to be determined:

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?pho ... ntain%20RR
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Postby blockline4180 » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:43 pm

Some really neat and historic shots of DL&W MU's taken in 1933!!

http://photoswest.org:8080/cgi-bin/cw_c ... +8225+12+0
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Postby Tadman » Thu May 31, 2007 11:44 am

Neat bit of trivia - the first run of these cars in 1930 was piloted by none other than Thomas Edison, just about a year before he died.
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Postby Tri-State Tom » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:02 am

Tad -

Probably has become trivia as the years have past.

For their first 20-25 years of service the MU's weren't called MU's as much as they were called Edison Cars.

And he piloted the 1st run between Montclair and Hoboken. There's a rather famous photo of Tom on the track #1 platform at the old Lackawanna Plaza terminal in Montclair posed next to an MU set with Lackawanna execs and local dignitaries marking the occasion ( in 1931 AIR, no ? ).
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Postby blockline4180 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:08 pm

Anyone know how many of the "Edison Cars" survive with their original straw (rattan) seats intact?? During the last years NJT ran them, most of the cars that retained the wicker seats were the 3500 series motor coaches. I realize most of these cars were probably scrapped, but there must be some "survivors" still around working for tourist lines or museums (excluding the open vestibule Boonton Cars)...

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Postby henry6 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:53 pm

Oh, yeah, there are quite a few around with the rattan seats. But EL also redid many with a vinyl, too.
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Postby Tri-State Tom » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:31 pm

henry -

But EL also redid many with a vinyl, too.


I can vividly recall my Dad preferring to ride the wicker seats of the Lackawanna MU's over the vinyl seats found in the Erie Stillwells....particularly in the Summer.

As neither cars had a/c, the MU's were somewhat cooler....although the downside was one often gained a checkerboard pattern on the back of one's dress white shirt !
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Postby henry6 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:59 pm

I remember when the fans were installed in the MU's in the 50's. Still had to open the windows to get a breeze! Wyatt Earp cars didn't get the fans as I recall.
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Postby GOLDEN-ARM » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:15 pm

Every month, or so, these guys have MU trailers for sale. Got about six, right now.......
http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/coaches.htm
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Postby blockline4180 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:03 pm

GOLDEN-ARM wrote:Every month, or so, these guys have MU trailers for sale. Got about six, right now.......
http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/coaches.htm



If I could afford it I would! Not only that, but what does M&E or other shortline railroads in NJ charge per month/week just to keep passenger cars on their property??
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Postby Tri-State Tom » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:50 am

MY GOODNESS....look at them new toilet seats !

Where's that 'MU Toilet' thread gone to ???

Much thanks for that link GA !!
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Postby GOLDEN-ARM » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:15 pm

Your welcome! Depends on where you store it, how much stuff is already there, and if you are going to work on it, while there. Going to let your sponsoring road use it? This might weigh in your favor, as well. The M&E was very kind to railfans, and the rates they had for equipment at Whippany, while I was there. With Ben gone, no idea what the "new regime" would say, or charge you. You will most likely find, the charge for moving the car is more than you paid to buy it, IF you can get someone to move it for you.
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Postby blockline4180 » Fri May 09, 2008 4:00 pm

The Reading & Northern has about 10-12 former MU trailer cars. I'll be riding in them behind the #425 come this July.

Question, anyone know when the blue & orange vinyl seats were installed to replace the brown rattan? I realize some cars still had the rattan up until the end in 84, but I remember many cars with blue, orange/tan, and even green seats. Were these seats replaced during the EL or Conrail era?? Did any of the cars have red burgandy seats, or were these installed by the tourist railroads that bought them??

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Postby Work Extra » Thu May 22, 2008 9:41 pm

Are these cars the most preserved historic rail car out there? I don't seen any MP54s in this amount in tourist operations.
Does having being in service to the mid 1980s have anything to do with it?
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Postby Tri-State Tom » Fri May 23, 2008 11:13 am

Work -

Are these cars the most preserved historic rail car out there? I don't seen any MP54s in this amount in tourist operations.
Does having being in service to the mid 1980s have anything to do with it?


Good observation.

I think the answers are yes and yes. Dozens of the MU trailers went OOS and on the 'For Sale' market in 1984 and were grabbed in bunches.
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