abandoned D & H line south of Albany

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Re: abandoned D & H line south of Albany

Postby newpylong » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:08 pm

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:
newpylong wrote:Depends if the easement was held by CP (NS soon) or NY State or given up as part of the abandonment.


Believe the county bought it for a planned trail, which is going to make it doubly difficult to get back vs. if the state held it.


Meant the easement where the diamonds were. not east of there.
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Re: abandoned D & H line south of Albany

Postby staustell92 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:00 pm

As far as I have ever been able to tell, the story of the bridge over the Normankill on the Albany Main was a piece of fiction. O knew D&H officials at the time, and I never heard them say the bridge had been condemned.

The problem was that the bridge was a pin-connected through-truss bridge, and CP Rail didn't have pin-connected through truss bridges. They claimed they are dangerous. If one of the pins fails, the whole bridge is in danger of collapse. But the bridge had beenm there for over 100 years and it hadn't collapsed!

I spoke with a railroad civil engineer who said that there are a number of pin-connected through-truss bridges around the country still successfully in service every day. They just need to be inspected regularly and the pins tested (ultrasonically?).

I located a shortline operator who successfully rebuilt and operated the Nashville & Eastern Railroad in Nashville, Tennessee (but he lived in Vermont) and he was interested in operating the entire Albany Main from Kenwood to Delanson. A commuter line eventually could have operated on that line (which he made happen in Nashville). I took him to a meeting of the Albany County Legislature to make a presentation, and they wouldn't let him speak (it was obvious a backroom deal had already been made). It was Albany's loss. Unfortunately, that will never be a railroad again. The NIMBY's will never allow it. By the way, he and his partners recently sold the Nashville & Eastern to R.J. Corman.
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Re: abandoned D & H line south of Albany

Postby newpylong » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:32 pm

The loss of that line as a through line is definitely one of the biggest RR travesties in this region in the past 20 years. Especially considering what the D&H South's new owner could have done with it. They certainly would be doing a hell of a lot more with Albany than CP has ever done.
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Re: abandoned D & H line south of Albany

Postby johnpbarlow » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:01 am

I don't how important the Albany Main was to D&H ops way back when Conrail was formed. As this link to the D&H Freight Service Guide schematic map effective April 22, 1976 shows, there was only 1 daily train using the line, eastbound BA-6 from Oneonta to Colonie yard. The reverse move, AO-5 was routed to Oneonta from Colonie via Mechanicville (I'm guessing the Albany Main grades west out of Kenwood were fairly steep?).

http://www.multimodalways.org/docs/railroads/companies/D&H/D&H%20Freight%20Service%20Guide%20copy%204-22-1976.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3LGCtZ8LrkSc7eAJrVbiywhG0LcsIlYd3I4sj3duIAEMejSAUJ475AYbg
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