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Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:46 pm

How many preserved MILW passenger cars exist? Looking for cars that are MILW heritage or restored to MILW paint.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby westr » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:52 pm

There are three former Milwaukee cars in Portland, Oregon on a siding at East Portland Jct. where the Oregon Pacific Railroad interchanges with Union Pacific. They are painted BN-ish green and white and I don't know the numbers, but they are a Valley-series Parlor car, an Olympian Hiawatha baggage-dorm and a coach that I think is from the 480-series. I don't know what they are used for but they appear to be well maintained and connected to utilities. They've been there for years.
Pictures:
http://myweb.msoe.edu/~westr/Pictures/Misc%20Rails/MILW%20Parlor%201.JPG
http://myweb.msoe.edu/~westr/Pictures/Misc%20Rails/MILW%20Baggage-Dorm%201.JPG
http://myweb.msoe.edu/~westr/Pictures/Misc%20Rails/MILW%20Coach.JPG

The Crooked River Dinner Train on the City of Prineville Railway in central Oregon uses two former Milwaukee coaches. They are painted in Milwaukee-ish colors; appropriate since they are pulled by one of two City of Prineville former Milwaukee "GP20s" (rebuilt GP9s) in Milwaukee-ish orange and black. There is also a former baggage car painted to match that I don't think is a Milwaukee car, but its been heavily modified so I'm not sure. No photos of my own, but see http://www.trainweb.org/chris/prineville.html and http://www.brian894x4.com/CityofPrinevilleRR.html

According to http://trainweb.org/web_lurker/MILWf/ and http://trainweb.org/web_lurker/MILW/ 9 of the 10 Super Domes, 3 of the 6 Creek-series Skytops and 3 of the 4 Rapids-series Skytops still exist.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby PRRGuy » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:23 pm

The Milwaukee Road 261 group owns:

Skytop observation car "Cedar Rapids"
MILW super dome #53
Milwaukee Road Sleeper " Minnesota River"

These are restored to Amtrak specs and available for charter.


I believe they also own at least on Milw rib-sided baggage car as well.


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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby PRRGuy » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:32 pm

Milwaukee Road Surviving Passenger Equipment

Observation Cars
Obs #14 “Arrow Creek” Buffalo, NY on a barge
Obs # 15 “Coffee Creek” PV Owned Boston, Mass
Obs #16 “Gold Creek” Buffalo NY on a barge

Parlor Obs 186 “Cedar Rapids” Friends of the 261 Minneapolis, MN
Parlor Obs 187 “Coon Rapids” In storage on E&LS Wells, MI
Parlor Obs 188 “Dell Rapids” Display- Daytona Museum of arts and sciences Daytona Beach, FL

Super Domes

Dome # 50 Royal Gorge Route Railroad #50
Dome # 51 PV Owned; stored on E&LS in Michigan
Dome # 52 Napa Valley Wine Train
Dome # 53 Friends of the 261 Minneapolis, MN
Dome # 54 Scrapped for parts 1983
Dome # 55 Reading & Northern RR # 4
Dome # 56 Royal Gorge Route Railroad #56
Dome # 57 Ontario Northland RR 900
Dome # 58 American Orient Express, in storage; For sale?
Dome # 59 Spirit of Washington Dinner Train “Spirit of Renton” # 59

Dining Cars

Diner # 122 Was on Ozark Mountain Railcar- Sold to?
Diner # 167 PV Owned Chambersburg, PA
Diner # 170 Kansas City, MO Union Station Museum

Parlor Cars

Parlor #193 Fox River Valley Fremont Dinner Train Fremont, NE

Coaches

Coach # 488 PV Owned Chamberlain SD PMCX 488? Dakota Southern?
Coach # 494 Ozark Mountain Railcar- Sold to?
Coach # 502 Minnesota Transportation Museum
Coach # 541 Chamber of Commerce Building Savanna, IL
Coach # 618 Mad River & NKP Museum Bellevue, OH
Coach # 621 PV Owned Chamberlain SD PMCX 621?
Coach # 629 For Sale Rail Merchants.net?
Coach # 639 Ozark Mountain Railcar-Sold to?
Coach # 687 PV Owned Limon, CO ?
Baggage and RPO’s

Baggage # 1001*
Baggage # 1002*
Baggage # 1103 *
Baggage # 1204 *
Baggage # 1304 IRM Union, IL
Baggage # 2050 IRM Union, IL

RPO 2159 Wisconsin Great Northern?

*Galveston RR Museum (TX)

RPO 103? For sale 20,000. Ozark Mountain Railcar
Baggage 104? For sale 12,000 Ozark Mountain Railcar
Baggage 105? For sale 12,000. Ozark Mountain Railcar

Baggage/Dorn 1312 SLSTA “Firefly”
Baggage/Dorm 1315 Fremont Dinner Train Fremont, NE “Clear Creek”


Lounge Cars

Tip Top Tap Lounge Car Ozark Mountain Railcar -For sale $40,000.00 (25,000.00 now)
http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/mlwtaplounge.htm




Sleeping Cars


Sleeper #24 “Jefferson River” Kansas City, MO
Sleeper #31 “Minnesota River” Friends of the 261 Minneapolis, MN
Sleeper #36 “ Pacific Heights” FNM 632 Mexico



Business Cars
Business Car “Indiana” For sale 95,000.00 Ozark Mountain Railcar
http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/indiana.htm

Business Car “Wisconsin” For sale $155,000.00 Ozark Mountain Railcar
http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/wisconsin.htm

Business Car “ Montana” PV Owned
http://www.railcarmontana.com/info.html


Combine/Branchline Cabooses


Combine #2713 Display- Mendota, IL Union Depot RR Museum
Combine #2716 Display- Peoria, IL
Combine #425 Display Lacrosse, WI
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Nukengineer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:09 pm

There is one in Madison, WI in a static display of 4 cars used as stores (all currently empty) behind the Kohl center. It is the "Camp Randall". I'll have to check my photos for the car number and type.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:49 pm

Nukengineer wrote:There is one in Madison, WI in a static display of 4 cars used as stores (all currently empty) behind the Kohl center. It is the "Camp Randall". I'll have to check my photos for the car number and type.


Are those the ones at the station behind the mock MILW E-unit? Those stainless steel coaches are ex-NYC, ex-Metro-North. They still have "Metropolitan Transportation Authority" in the letterboards!

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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby BlackDog » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:31 pm

There is a parlor car, I forget the name and number, on display next to the depot in Avery Idaho.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Tadman » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:43 pm

There is an armour yellow MILW sleeper parked at KCUS lettered for KCS but clearly of MILW origination (windows!) and I'll post a pic this evening. My internet at home is high speed but spotty and the upload doesn't work well. I presume this coach is headed for KCS biz train as its faded and the reporting marks are spray painted. It's parked on the house track (former track 27, west side of depot) along with other PV's.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Nukengineer » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:11 pm

Otto Vondrak wrote:Are those the ones at the station behind the mock MILW E-unit? Those stainless steel coaches are ex-NYC, ex-Metro-North. They still have "Metropolitan Transportation Authority" in the letterboards!


Those are the ones. The station is a bike shop. The 4 cars are (were) little shops - all are currently for lease. The mock E unit is 35A. Next car is the NYC coach - number board missing. Next 2 coaches are Metropolitan Trans Authority cars. One missing number boards, other one is 2439. Last in line is the Milw road "Camp Randall" - no numbers painted on it. The track they are on is very light rail (90# or less) and isnt currently connected, but at one time, it was one of 13 tracks at the end of the yard crossing a busy 4 lane street - only one remains now.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby PRRGuy » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:37 am

Coaches # 605 and #633 are service in MILW-inspired paint on the Little River Railroad in Michigan.

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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:32 pm

Nukengineer wrote:
Otto Vondrak wrote:Are those the ones at the station behind the mock MILW E-unit? Those stainless steel coaches are ex-NYC, ex-Metro-North. They still have "Metropolitan Transportation Authority" in the letterboards!


Those are the ones.


Thanks for confirming, but I'm only interested in actual MILW equipment, of which these coaches were not.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Hawko » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:24 pm

I believe the Freight House restaurant in La Crosse,WI has a former Milwaukee Road passenger car as part of their collection. I'll get the details next time I am in town and will let you know.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby dhaugh » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:50 pm

Not sure of it's origin, but I believe there is a privately owned one at the Siouxland Historical Society, which is located at the former Milwaukee Road shops near Sioux City , iA.
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:05 pm

Saw the "Cedar Rapids" and the Super Dome last week parked at St. Paul Amtrak depot...
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Re: Preserved MILW passenger cars?

Postby Scoring Guy » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:06 am

Is the 261's "Wisconsin River" an actual Milwaukee Road car? It has all square windows. I don't know the answer, YOU tell me. :(
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