Surviving B&M equipment

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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby Paul » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:20 pm

Yes.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby RedLantern » Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:59 pm

Fletcher's Granite has at least two wooden B&M cabooses, one is at the Westford quarry and is used as an office for quarry workers. It's interior is completely stripped out so the cupola basically just makes a nice skylight. The other that I know of is a monitor-top at the Milford NH quarry, it's used for storage. Neither are visible from any public roads, and both had their trucks removed.

The Westford quarry still runs a GE centercab to push some steam-era flat cars that haul granite. The 410 in Lowell was formerly used for that purpose when the B&M leased it to the quarry, so I wouldn't be surprised if a number of the cars and maybe even the centercab were owned by the B&M at one point.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby CSRR573 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:50 am

Isnt one of the Coaches on the Old Colony & newport RR a former B&M coach?
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby drvmusic » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:55 am

Speaking of the 410 in Lowell.... are there any surviving pictures or video of it when it was running?
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby Cosmo » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:22 am

I remember seeing some old (Super)8mm(?) footage of the 410 being pulled out of storage at Fletcher's Quarry way back in the 1980's.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby jhdeasy » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:42 am

Former B&M lightweight sleeper SALISBURY BEACH is for sale. The owner had a sign to that effect on display inside his car during the AAPRCO convention's first night car party at Portland ME on 9/22/2014. I believe it is the only former B&M passenger car that is currently certified for mainline service on Amtrak and Via Rail Canada.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby arthur d. » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:45 pm

Last time I was there, there was an old wood coach preserved next to the also preserved depot in Contoocook NH.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby Z31SPL » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:42 pm

I didn't see it mentioned in this thread but at Landscapers Depot on route 125 in Kingston, NH they have a blue and red B&M caboose, a blue B&M boxcar, and a yellow MEC box car. Not sure if these are original or just painted to look the part.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby bmcdr » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:51 pm

Z31SPL wrote:I didn't see it mentioned in this thread but at Landscapers Depot on route 125 in Kingston, NH they have a blue and red B&M caboose, a blue B&M boxcar, and a yellow MEC box car. Not sure if these are original or just painted to look the part.

All of Landscape Depot's equipment is genuine. The MEC boxcar is #140, the B&M caboose is #432 former, C-32, and I don't know the number of the B&M boxcar.
They also have another B&M caboose, a C-100 series car, way up back in unrestored condition, number unknown, it was for sale a couple of years ago.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby NHV 669 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:53 pm

On my way up north via Route 3 to Stratford, Monday, I noticed this caboose. Was running on short time, due to family constraints. Any idea if it is of heritage to the B&M or something local?

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5202162,-71.5723743,3a,75y,60.55h,94.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxAVMI3fHGjVFjhxYed--9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby jbvb » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:04 pm

I'll defer to local knowledge, but the modern windows & cupola give me the impression of a 1960s or 1970s International product. The body looks a little long and asymmetrical to be one of the C-100 to 137 1959 rebuilds of the 104600 series.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby eustis22 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:17 pm

There is a B&M caboose next to Rte 26 in Sumner, Me. if I can get close to it w/o cheesing off the property owner I will make inquiries and post some pics.

I don't have any railroad literature but was there any track between Paris and Sumner?
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby Dick H » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:14 pm

The Buckfield Branch Railroad chartered in 1847 to run from Mechanic Fallls to Canton.
According to "The Rail Lines of Northern New England" by Robert M Lindsell (2000),
the stations on the line were Mechanic Falls, West Minor, East Hebron Buckfield,
East Sumner, Hartford and Canton. The line south of Canton was abandoned in
1952 by the MEC.

Run the URL below and scroll down to "Rangeley Branch"
for a complete listing of the stations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumford_Branch
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby Noel Weaver » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:09 pm

There was probably one person more than anybody else responsible for the demise of most of the old equipment from the Boston and Maine of years past. I have a lot of old timetables both public and employee from the better days of the B & M. Some of them date back to the early 1930's. It is simply amazing that the B & M timetables got so thin in the late 50's and through the early and mid 1960's. I am sure that a fair number of these trains were losers but all of them, i am not so sure about that. In less than 10 years Boston - Portland went from 9 daily trains to none, Boston - Concord went from 9 daily trains to none, Springfield - White River Junction went from 7 daily trains to none, the Conway Branch went from 2 or 3 daily trains depending on the season to none, Portsmouth from 8 or 9 to none (I'll bet they wish they had them today. Public timetables went from a large folder something like the Amtrak system folders of today to a single sheet of paper with a couple of folds for the through trains and a separate leaflet type folder for the locals out of Boston. Often it was necessary to change trains half way through a trip and sometimes connections were missed probably intentionally. Boston - Montreal in a Budd Car with nothing for food although knowledgeable folks could avail themselves of a decent diner right next to the station at White River Junction during the 15 or 20 minute stop there. I remember train 76 (The Ambassador) enroute from Montreal to New Haven when we went from a nice smooth and on time to the minute ride on the Central Vermont to White River Junction then a very bumpy ride on the B & M when we had to lose maybe 15 to 20 minutes enroute to Springfield where the connection to New Haven train 59 was lost by maybe 10 or 15 minutes and we had to wait for 97. McGinnis tried his best to kill all of the remaining passenger service in New England and he was probably the most single person responsible for not only the end on the Boston and Maine but probably the Maine Central and the Bangor Aroostook as well. Boston to Caribou, Maine meant a change at both Portland and Bangor and nothing but Budd Cars between Boston and Portland. Mcginnis also tried to ruin the passenger trains on the New Haven as well but he got the boot before he had time to finish the job. In 1958 the B & M changed the format of their employee timetables to a very difficult to read small print and in a hodgepodge fashion, I wonder how their crews were able to get through them. McGinnis got off too easy with a few months in Federal Prison for robbing the kitty on the B & M. I wonder how much he robbed from the New Haven? In any event looking at these old timetables is very interesting. They had one entire employee timetable that was in effect for only three days and then superseded by another complete timetable, I have copies of both. In any event looking at these old timetables is both interesting and refreshes my memory.
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Re: Surviving B&M equipment

Postby eustis22 » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:23 pm

I did not get a foto but below is a link to the caboose and a box car at the junction of 26 and 219 in West Paris. I will try to get info from the property owner this coming weekend.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/East+Sumner,+Sumner,+ME+04292/@44.3335008,-70.555693,3a,42.5y,235.19h,89.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_eE1ALtwYLLYy_1bELmhIQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D_eE1ALtwYLLYy_1bELmhIQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D254.04324%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x4cb22fcc00b00183:0x7444fe1cb7b24206

Looks like it's numbered 413 but pics of B&M 413 show a cupola. This page, http://capecodrails.railfan.net/necabooses.html, says that's where B&M 413 transfer caboose is
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