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Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby zebrasepta » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:18 pm

https://whyy.org/articles/killing-septa ... tion-plan/

The City of Philadelphia released what may be its most ambitious and concretely detailed transportation plan yet on Wednesday. Called CONNECT, the seven-year plan details the goals, strategies and tactics officials hope will address the city’s most pressing transportation challenges, including increased congestion, declining bus ridership, and a bike commuting trend that’s gone flat.

The plan represents the first time city officials have publicly endorsed a number of proposals long sought by Philadelphia’s small but outspoken community of multimodal advocates, such as increasing local contributions to SEPTA’s budget; providing free transit passes for college students; killing SEPTA transfer fees; introducing dynamic pricing to on-street parking; and deploying “speed cushions” and other traffic-slowing interventions to create “Neighborhood Slow Zones.”
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby mcgrath618 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:47 pm

Finally, a subway station at 20th. Should help revitalize that stretch of road.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby ExCon90 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:51 pm

I hate to think of the disruption to existing service that carving out space for a 20th St. station would cause, quite apart from the expense (pity it wasn't built that way 110 years ago, but who knew?). Barring the magical appearance of a money fountain I think the money would be better spent elsewhere for a greater return with less disruption.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby Patrick Boylan » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:08 am

mcgrath618 wrote:Finally, a subway station at 20th. Should help revitalize that stretch of road.

What do you mean when you say "revitalize". Do you think 20th and Market is not vital now?
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby phillyrube » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:56 am

Always curious why there is not a stop on the MSEL between 15th St and 30th St. Something to do with the wasteland that was there when the Chinese wall was in operation?

I used to work at 22nd at Arch. Took the Reading in from Hatboro, walked to City Hall and took a SS car to 22nd St, then walked north. Always under cover until the walk north.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby mcgrath618 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:11 am

Patrick Boylan wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:Finally, a subway station at 20th. Should help revitalize that stretch of road.

What do you mean when you say "revitalize". Do you think 20th and Market is not vital now?

20th and market is fine, but walk a few blocks west and there’s a memorial and two vacant lots. Would love to see those finally built on.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby Patrick Boylan » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:07 pm

Do you realize that the memorial and vacant lots are at 22nd St, where there has been a subway surface stop since the 1950's, and a prior subway surface stop at 24th St? It's hard to imagine a Market-Frankford stop at 20th St to give enough bang for the buck at 22nd St to justify itself.
And once upon a time, 5 years ago, there were buildings where that memorial is, a memorial dedicated to the lives lost during a revitalization accident. It's even harder to imagine a Market-Frankford stop at 20th St to prompt any construction at the memorial.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby sammy2009 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:28 pm

A subway stop at 20th/Market is pointless. If that would happen then they might as well build the Roosevelt Blvd Subway.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby mcgrath618 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:35 pm

Patrick Boylan wrote:Do you realize that the memorial and vacant lots are at 22nd St, where there has been a subway surface stop since the 1950's, and a prior subway surface stop at 24th St? It's hard to imagine a Market-Frankford stop at 20th St to give enough bang for the buck at 22nd St to justify itself.
And once upon a time, 5 years ago, there were buildings where that memorial is, a memorial dedicated to the lives lost during a revitalization accident. It's even harder to imagine a Market-Frankford stop at 20th St to prompt any construction at the memorial.

My apologies, the SS lines totally escaped my memory.
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Re: Philly's transportation project CONNECT

Postby JimBoylan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:19 pm

$1 million of the Woodland Ave. trolley subway money was a transfer in 1948 of PTC's contribution to a Market - Frankford subway station at 22nd St.
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